[nfbcs] ATQ was RE: jaws so sensitive is BS!

Mon Jan 1 00:09:29 UTC 2018

Agreed, but there is a huge difference in that and starting a full out
debate about why companies do something--apology if my message came across
wrong. Also, if the content of a thread has changed drastically, but the
subject has not, how are people supposed to be able to delete it quickly?
	This is the last I am going to say on this as I don't want to get in
trouble for getting off topic.

Hiding in my cave,
Nicole

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Chaltain via nfbcs
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 2:52 PM
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Subject: Re: [nfbcs] ATQ was RE: jaws so sensitive is BS!

I try to answer people's questions, but if I think they're not aware of
different alternatives, I won't hesitate to let them know about their
options. Of course, they're free to delete that information, just as anyone
else on the list is.

On 12/29/2017 09:25 AM, Nicole Torcolini via nfbcs wrote:
> As a friendly reminder, most people who have questions are interested 
> in getting their questions answered--not finding another way to do
something.
> If more than one or two other ways of doing something are suggested 
> instead of answering the question, then start another thread or at 
> least change the subject, especially if people are going to start 
> going on about why companies do stuff. I know that I am not the one 
> who wrote the original question, but this has happened to me plenty of 
> times, and I am sure that other people do not appreciate it either.
>
> Going to hide under my rock,
> Nicole
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of John Heim 
> via nfbcs
> Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 7:04 AM
> To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List
> Cc: John Heim
> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] jaws so sensitive is BS!
>
> Yeah, my solution was to switch to linux and orca.
>
> I am really surprised they are still doing this. I went around and 
> around with them about it back when I was doing desktop support. I was 
> trying new hardware all the time. I told them that policy was driving 
> me away. But I can see how this makes sense from a marketting  and/or
business stand point.
> They realize that people have alternatives these days but as long as 
> governments and many businesses are willing to pay, they are going to 
> get every cent they can from jaws. They are more worried about getting 
> every dollar they can out of their existing customers than they are 
> about losing customers.
>
> I know this is not a practical solution for most people but I switched 
> to linux and orca years ago. It turned out being a good career move too.
> I live in a university town and there are always lots and lots of 
> linux jobs. Something to consider anyway.
>
> On 12/28/2017 08:09 PM, Aaron Cannon via nfbcs wrote:
>> Note: this is not a real answer to your question.
>>
>> My recommended fix: NVDA. I know, Jaws currently works better in most
> (though certainly not all) applications, but on the other hand, you 
> don't have to put up with rediculous BS like this. I pay every so 
> often for my Jaws upgrade, just as most of you do, but it kills me a 
> bit each time, realizing that as much as I respect and appreciate, and 
> admire what the amazing folks at NVAccess have done, and continue to 
> do, I only give them a fraction of the money I give to VFO.
>> Anyway, now that I got that off my chest, I believe you can purchase 
>> a
> license dongle that will authorize whatever computer you happen to 
> have it plugged into.
>> Good luck.
>>
>> Aaron
>>
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>>
>>> On Dec 28, 2017, at 19:00, b.schulz--- via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In the new age when floppy disks are obsolete, for Christmas I 
>>> bought myself a icy dock dual 2.5" bay drive cage and obtained 
>>> visual help to make the sata ports hot plug capable in bios.
>>>
>>> Everything works great and the computer recognized the drive when it 
>>> was shoved into the slot then it killed the jaws activation.
>>>
>>> Has anyone found a way around the jaws activation BS that burns a 
>>> key when you make any little change to your hardware?
>>>
>>> Bryan Schulz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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