[nfbcs] nfbcs Digest, Vol 166, Issue 7

Mon Mar 12 17:22:11 UTC 2018

hello my name is wajiha I am recently studyingjava script,my sql and
c-sharp. I use jaws and nvda. my questions is could someone explain to
me how to study c-sharp as a blind and how to use netbean as a blind.
regards.
wajiha.

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>    1. Re: Speech on Demand Frustrations (david hertweck)
>    2. choosing a specialization within CS (Ryan Boudwin)
>    3. Re: choosing a specialization within CS (Dan JanJanin)
>    4. Re: choosing a specialization within CS (Sabra Ewing)
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> Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2018 07:32:39 -0600
> From: "david hertweck" <david.hertweck at sbcglobal.net>
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> I have been a jaws user for years and lately on 2 of my systems I have
> switched intirely to NVDA.  On my other 2 systems I have both and find it
> quite usefull.  If you are liking the features in jaws I would advise you to
>
> give nvda a try.  It will not cost you anything to try.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Leslie Fairall via nfbcs
> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2018 4:42 PM
> To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List ; For users of paperless braille
> displays ; Computer Use by and for the Blind
> Cc: Leslie Fairall
> Subject: [nfbcs] Speech on Demand Frustrations
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> Hello everyone:
>
> The subject says it in a nutshell. I'm finding that I don't like this new
> speech on demand feature in Jaws. The ability to totally turn speech
> on/off has been severely hampered or removed completely. I now work in a
> cubicle setting where I don't necessarily want my time or title bar
> announced. I have made the unfortunate decision not to install Jaws 2018
> on my office PC due to this new feature. I've also found that full speech
> often comes back on when there is a major screen change.
>
> The bottom line is that I want to be in control of my screen reader. I
> found the ability to turn speech on/off essential, but it has been taken
> away from me. I hope deaf-blind users are aware of this change since they
> may not be able to hear their computer talk at all. If speech on demand is
> such a valuable feature, I don't understand why it wouldn't have been
> built in as a layered command. So, when you press insert-s, you would get
> three choices instead of two. But what do I know, right?
>
> What are others thoughts on this? Am I the only one not liking this new
> feature?
>
> --
> Leslie Fairall
> mailto:fairall at shellworld.net
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> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2018 22:38:38 +0000
> From: Ryan Boudwin <ryanboudwin at gmail.com>
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> Subject: [nfbcs] choosing a specialization within CS
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> I currently work in enterprise technical support management. I've always
> had an interest in software development, and am intending to learn to
> program in order to diversify my skill set a little bit.
>
> I had been working through freecodecamp before I found out I was losing my
> vision to RP as web development is very big in my local job market. I am
> wondering now if web development as a specialization still makes sense or
> if I should focus on a different programming language, like C# (since I
> hear Visual Studio is more accessible than most IDEs). My central vision
> still works but I don't want to count on that for my professional future,
> and I'm dealing with some eye fatigue issues that is motivating me to learn
> JAWS asap.
>
> Is there any particular programming specialization that is more or less
> accessible than others? My current role I can do without vision, but I
> still want to learn to program.
>
> Ryan
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2018 22:07:56 -0700
> From: "Dan JanJanin" <w3explorer at gmail.com>
> To: "'NFB in Computer Science Mailing List'" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] choosing a specialization within CS
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> If web development is your interest then I would pursue it.
>
> If your concerned about losing what vision you've got left, I would suggest
> looking into server-side technologies, rather than client-side.  But it's
> always good to know something about HTML and Javascript.  In my experience,
> employers are looking for "jacks-of-all-trades" rather than specialists,
> unless the specialization is hightly technical.
>
> I live in MS's backyard so there's a lot of C# development in this area.
> But that may not be the case for you.  Learn what is valuable where you
> live.
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> From: nfbcs <nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Ryan Boudwin via nfbcs
> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 3:39 PM
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> Cc: Ryan Boudwin <ryanboudwin at gmail.com>
> Subject: [nfbcs] choosing a specialization within CS
>
> I currently work in enterprise technical support management. I've always
> had
> an interest in software development, and am intending to learn to program
> in
> order to diversify my skill set a little bit.
>
> I had been working through freecodecamp before I found out I was losing my
> vision to RP as web development is very big in my local job market. I am
> wondering now if web development as a specialization still makes sense or
> if
> I should focus on a different programming language, like C# (since I hear
> Visual Studio is more accessible than most IDEs). My central vision still
> works but I don't want to count on that for my professional future, and I'm
> dealing with some eye fatigue issues that is motivating me to learn JAWS
> asap.
>
> Is there any particular programming specialization that is more or less
> accessible than others? My current role I can do without vision, but I
> still
> want to learn to program.
>
> Ryan
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> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2018 00:42:01 -0600
> From: Sabra Ewing <sabra1023 at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] choosing a specialization within CS
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> Visual studio may be accessible, but the documentation definitely isn't.
> There is very scarce documentation specifically designed for screen reader
> users, and if you are not used to an environment like that, it is not very
> intuitive. It is not like, oh, I can't remember the shortcut so I will find
> it in the menus. You either know the shortcut or it's a no go as far as
> visual studio is concerned because they allow you to get around with
> shortcut keys, but when I was using it, I was never able to access any menus
> or ribbons like in word or another program that is made by Microsoft. Also,
> I don't mean offense by this, but many of the blind people who have
> documentation in their brains about how to use it that they got from the
> nose where, have not bothered to write a manual for the rest of us, and can
> be very hottie exclusive where this knowledge is concerned. If you already
> know a lot about programming though, you might have better luck using it. I
> personally think that web development might be better because you can have
> stylesheets and HTML really is not that hard. The only problem you might
> have is with graphics, but you might not even have that problem since you
> used to be cited. However, visual studio allows you to make websites as
> well. They were doing that in my visual basic class. The good thing about
> visual studio is if you can get it to work, you can easily move controls
> around on the screen. It has a coordinate system, which no one at my
> university could tell me how to work and I could not find this information
> online, but if you can figure out how to work that coordinate system, you
> can put controls wherever you want.
>
> Sabra Ewing
>
>> On Mar 11, 2018, at 4:38 PM, Ryan Boudwin via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I currently work in enterprise technical support management. I've always
>> had an interest in software development, and am intending to learn to
>> program in order to diversify my skill set a little bit.
>>
>> I had been working through freecodecamp before I found out I was losing
>> my
>> vision to RP as web development is very big in my local job market. I am
>> wondering now if web development as a specialization still makes sense or
>> if I should focus on a different programming language, like C# (since I
>> hear Visual Studio is more accessible than most IDEs). My central vision
>> still works but I don't want to count on that for my professional future,
>> and I'm dealing with some eye fatigue issues that is motivating me to
>> learn
>> JAWS asap.
>>
>> Is there any particular programming specialization that is more or less
>> accessible than others? My current role I can do without vision, but I
>> still want to learn to program.
>>
>> Ryan
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