[NFBCS] Linux users

Mon Aug 5 18:27:32 UTC 2019

> Ryan, Voiceover is perfect when navigating the entire terminal output and within editors like nano or VIM. I personally do not use nano but I use VIM all the time. 
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>> On Aug 5, 2019, at 10:54 AM, Ryan Mann via NFBCS <nfbcs at nfbnet.org <mailto:nfbcs at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
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>> How good is the cursor tracking when you use VoiceOver and SSH?  If you use an editor like Nano, can you use the arrow keys and move around in Nano with VoiceOver reading accurately?  This is important if you need to edit configuration files.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Aug 4, 2019, at 11:16 PM, Greg Kearney via NFBCS <nfbcs at nfbnet.org <mailto:nfbcs at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
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>>> Given that we are talking about running Lunix from the terminal wouldn't a solution be to just ssh into the Linux computer from a MacOS computer running VoiceOver and just use VoiceOver and the screen reader for the terminal?
>>> 
>>> Greg
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>>>> On Aug 4, 2019, at 9:24 PM, Christopher Chaltain via NFBCS <nfbcs at nfbnet.org <mailto:nfbcs at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
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>>>> The last version of Vinux, version 5, is based off of Ubuntu 14.04. Ubuntu 14.04 was a long term supported (LTS) release, so it's official support ended a few months ago in April of 2019. Ubuntu 16.04and Ubuntu 18.04 are also LTS releases and will still be supported for a few more years. I find both of them to be accessible out of the box, although you'll need to start Orca with the alt+super+s key command after you've booted the distro from the install media.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> If we're talking about using Linux mostly from a terminal or the console then you might want to consider Fenrir. I don't use it myself yet, but it's supposed to have some major advantages over Speakup. https://linux-a11y.org/index.php?page=fenrir-screenreader <https://linux-a11y.org/index.php?page=fenrir-screenreader>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 8/4/19 5:41 PM, Ryan Mann via NFBCS wrote:
>>>>> The last time I checked out Vinux, it was way out of date compared to the regular Ubuntu.  Is this still the case?  If so, I would stay away from it and just set up Orca or Speakup on a main stream Linux distribution.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 4, 2019, at 4:38 PM, Humberto Avila via NFBCS <nfbcs at nfbnet.org <mailto:nfbcs at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dear Brian,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You can actually down load a stand alone version of the Linux OS, with built-in accessibility and screen readers. It is called Vinux, which is Linux for the visually impaired. You can download it from http://vinuxproject.org/ <http://vinuxproject.org/>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From my experience, it is very accessible, and it has a lot of structural content and navigation just like using JAWS on Windows. It is a bit of a learning curve, though, because Orca uses a lot of different key mappings that windows users aren't used to. However, it is completely doable.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have been using it a little bit, running it under a virtual machine on Windows, which is a possibility if you just want to learn it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Orca uses the Insert key as the screen reader key for performing actions, just like JAWS and NVDA, so many of the things that you do may be familiar.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hopefully this helps a bit.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Humberto
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> [JAWS Certified, 2019]<http://www.freedomscientific.com/certification <http://www.freedomscientific.com/certification>>   [NVDA Certified Expert 2019] <http://certification.nvaccess.org <http://certification.nvaccess.org/>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 8/4/2019 9:11 AM, Bryan Duarte via NFBCS wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hey ya'll,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am sure to some this is a ridiculous question but I need to ask any way. I have been using Linux for years but mostly through an SSH connection to a server instance on either AWS or a PI or designated server in my lab. My question is does any one have any feedback on using it stand alone with Orca or some other screen reader? If so plese share your experiences.
>>>>>> Bryan Duarte
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