[NFBCS] best solution for remote linux terminal work

[Brian Buhrow]

	Hello Tyler.  I completely agree with you.  I suppose I'm showing my
age in the sense that I've been burned by so much Windows instability over the
years that I don't really trust it as my daily driver if I don't have to.  And,
I've been fortunate in that I've ben able to workin environments where I've
been able to work around a lack of a javascript browser in most cases and
only use one in the rare cases where it's absolutely required.  That is
becoming harder, so I will have to build myself a new environment that
incorporates a better browser going forward.  Still, even today, I find
there are days when I use my Windows 10 machine when it takes a couple of
reboots before it comes up correctly.  Having said that, Windows 10 does
feel more solid than what came before, which is a good thing.

-thanks
-Brian
On Aug 7,  3:59pm, "Littlefield, Tyler via NFBCS" wrote:
} Subject: Re: [NFBCS] best solution for remote linux terminal work
} This very much depends on the user's level of experience. Using Jira, 
} you're not going to have a lot of luck with Edbrowse or Lynx, simply 
} because there is so much Javascript involved. I also wouldn't be able to 
} walk into most corporate environments and pull out a laptop running only 
} a terminal and have success in their environments.
} 
} So, is Linux usable? Certainly. Would I recommend he swap over to that 
} for work? Likely not. Keep the system you know and simply augment it 
} with something like Linux running in VMWare Player if you want to go the 
} terminal route. Then you can do your web browsing, email, chatting, etc 
} from the windows (or even Mac if you use VMWare Fusion), but have the 
} command line terminal available.
} 
} I would also echo Chris's comments about SecureCRT, it does quite a lot; 
} my only complaint is with their proprietary key support. Cursor tracking 
} is made much easier in later versions of JAWS, I think starting in 2020, 
} so you might want to give editing in the editor of your choice a shot there.
} 
} On 8/7/2020 3:04 PM, Gabe Vega Commtech LLC via NFBCS wrote:
} > I think you have heard incorrectly sir. is it different sure. but its 
} > not lacking in the least. both terminal and gui access is comparable 
} > to windows or mac, and as stated in terminal works great.
} >
} > On 8/7/2020 11:55 AM, Ryan Boudwin via NFBCS wrote:
} >> I'd also need to be able to use web applications and copy and paste
} >> terminal output into JIRA; I'm concerned with how well that would 
} >> work on a
} >> linux-only box. I haven't used a linux screen reader before but I have
} >> heard it's not the best experience.
} >>
} >> Best regards,
} >>
} >> Ryan Boudwin
} >> ryanboudwin at gmail.com
} >>
} >>
} >>
} >> On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 12:40 PM Brian Buhrow <buhrow at nfbcal.org> wrote:
} >>
} >>>          hello.  As a long time Unix person who uses terminals over 
} >>> ssh on a
} >>> daily basis with screen readers, I strongly recommend you build 
} >>> yourself a
} >>> Linux box and ssh to your remote sites from there.  Then, you can 
} >>> either
} >>> use Speakup or Yasr as your screen reader.  I use Yasr with the
} >>> eflite/flite
} >>> software speech engine.  This combination of software will give you 
} >>> full
} >>> access to screen oriented programs in terminal environments. While I 
} >>> think
} >>> things are changing a bit, terminal access using Jaws, NVDA or 
} >>> VoiceOver
} >>> is, in my experience, doable, but very very suboptimal.  As proof of 
} >>> that,
} >>> you'll  probably get a number of folks writing back on this question
} >>> suggesting that terminal access works fine using the Windows screen
} >>> readers, but that you'll find it easier to edit files on the local 
} >>> Windows
} >>> machine and then transfer them up using scp or some other file transfer
} >>> protocol once you're done.  that is a very inefficient way to edit 
} >>> files on
} >>> remote servers.  The combination of software I suggest lets me edit 
} >>> files
} >>> with ease in their native environments on the servers on which they 
} >>> belong.
} >>>
} >>> Hope this helps.
} >>> -Brian
} >>>
} >>> On Aug 7, 11:59am, Ryan Boudwin via NFBCS wrote:
} >>> } Subject: [NFBCS] best solution for remote linux terminal work
} >>> } Hey folks,
} >>> }
} >>> } I am considering a return to a technical individual contributor 
} >>> role. The
} >>> } job requires a significant amount of terminal work, over SSH to 
} >>> remote
} >>> } linux servers.
} >>> }
} >>> } What OS/screen reader/ssh client combination is the best/easiest/most
} >>> } reliable to use? I have access to JAWS, NVDA or Voiceover as 
} >>> needed but I
} >>> } haven't done terminal work since my blindness hit.
} >>> }
} >>> } Best regards,
} >>> }
} >>> } Ryan Boudwin
} >>> } ryanboudwin at gmail.com
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