[NFBCS] Windows 7 vs Windows 10

Tue Feb 25 00:30:12 UTC 2020

Hello Everyone,

I’m chiming in late and might not be very helpful but…

I mainly use Lenovo ThinkPads.  I’ve been a ThinkPad fan since the mid 90’s when they  were designed and built by IBM.  I have a collection of ThinkPad T series laptops with a few X models and a W or mobile workstation.

The recent modesl are very easy to open and upgrade with a few screws on the under side and flipping it over and shifting the keyboard a bit and it pretty much opens right up with direct access to the drive bay and memory slots.

A few models you might not even have to go through a lot of trouble and just have to remove one screw, open the panel it holds and you have access to the drive and memory bay.  The models I have support M.2 SSD’s and the tradition 2.5” HDD/SSD drive bay.

I’m in the process of repairing my ThinkPad W540 replacing the keyboard and upgrading the storage space adding at least a 500Gb M.2 SSD or maybe a 1TB if I can find an affordable option.  I already upgraded the hybrid HD/SSD to a 1TB SSD and from 8Gb of RAM to 32GB.

I plan on maybe triple booting it with Windows 10, Debian, and Kali Linux.  I’ve already done this with a ThinkPad T440p after upgrading the memory from 4Gb to 16, and the storage from a 250GB HD to an M.2 500GB SSD and a 1TB 2.5” SSD.  It boots very quickly and runs fast.  Linux seems faster and more efficient than Windows.  I still need to learn how to use the accessibility features in all my operating systems because I’m new to having this disability or vision problems.  If I can use Linux I’d like to make the switch.  Rioght now on my desk I’m using a MacBook Pro but would like to move away from it after I get my ThinkPad w540 working and configured.

If you do some shopping you should be able to find some refurbished ThinkPads really cheap and with a few upgrades they run very very nice.   I know refurb scares a few people off but I believe a lot of the refurbs sold from places like Fry’s and NewEgg are usually just cleaned up models that were deployed in the corporate world but still work great.  Just mostly cosmetic things need to be replaced and overall cleaned up.  I’ve purchased many and have not had any problems with them but if you’re able to spend just a little bit more you can buy a brand new model between 400 and 700 dollars…

Hope this helps someone…  if not just tune me out…

Alan

From: NFBCS <nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org> on behalf of Ed Barnes via NFBCS <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
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Date: Friday, February 21, 2020 at 14:50
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Cc: Ed Barnes <edbarnes7 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [NFBCS] Windows 7 vs Windows 10

Hi Curtis and list. Most of the hp 650 laptops actually have ssd’s that are of type M2 rather than the standard 2.5 inch Sata drives, and the 2.5 inch bay in the laptop is empty by default, or at least that is how the ProBook 650’s are that I’ve worked on, too bad they are a royal pain in the ass to open to do memory upgrades and the like when compared to earlier business class probooks like the hp 6560 and 6570 models.

The 650 g1 is actually similar to the 6560 or 6570 in that it is very easy to open up and work on whereas the g4 and g5 versions of the 650 are very tedious to open up to upgrade memory or hd.

There are 12-16 rubber covers you have to remove which cover all the screws and after you remove these rubber annoyances every screw has to come out.

I hope this note helps someone considering upgrading one of these hp’s.

Good luck.

From: Curtis Chong via NFBCS
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2020 11:58 AM
To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List
Cc: Curtis Chong; Tracy Carcione
Subject: Re: [NFBCS] Windows 7 vs Windows 10

Tracy:

I purchased an HP ProBook 650 with an SSD flash drive. The drive has no

moving parts. I boot up in two minutes with Windows 10. I think something

else is going on with your system that needs looking in to.

Sorry.

Cordially,

Curtis Chong

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From: NFBCS <nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione via NFBCS

Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2020 8:24 AM

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Cc: Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>

Subject: [NFBCS] Windows 7 vs Windows 10

Curtis recommends buying a new Windows 10 laptop, and says it will be faster

than an old Windows 7 machine.

This has not been my experience at all.  I bought a Dell laptop a few months

ago, running Win10, and it is ridiculously slow, much slower than my old

Windows7 desktop.  I even took it to the Microsoft store to see if it was

set up wrong, but it wasn't.  The store that sold me the laptop said it has

good memory and would be reasonably quick, but it's totally not.  I don't

know if it's because of Windows 10, or some other problem, but it's a bitter

disappointment to me.  Now my husband needs a new computer, too, but I'm

afraid he'll be as irritated and disappointed as I am.

Just saying.

Tracy

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