[NFBCS] Accessibility for programmers

[Jack Heim]

I don't believe in ending a thought with the words, "Its a shame but 
that's the way it is." I believe in asking what are we going to do about 
it. Or better yet, suggesting something we can do about it.

The NFB has a virtual chapter for guide dog users, right? Maybe we could 
do something like that for IT professionals. Get ourselves a voice.


On 2/25/20 2:10 PM, Kevin via NFBCS wrote:
> Tracy, yes, it is a tough issue and we sometimes need to be one step 
> ahead to find work arounds.  It's a shame but that's the way it is.
> 
> 
> On 2/25/2020 2:28 PM, Tracy Carcione via NFBCS wrote:
>> Kevin, I think the tools can be accessible, but hidden behind a
>> problematic user interface.  For me, SQL Management Studio, very
>> accessible, but reached through Citrix, which takes a deal of effort to
>> access and keep access current.
>>
>> And sometimes a user interface is "accessible", but is so clunky it takes
>> a screen reader user much longer to do something that it takes a sighted
>> person with a mouse.
>>
>> I know it's kind of a gray area, but it still affects people.
>> Tracy
>>
>>> Programming is mostly accessible with today's systems.  Sure, Java can
>>> be a bit of a pain but that can be dealt with.  When we talk about
>>> something not accessible we are talking about getting down to the A P I
>>> level which is up to the developer.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/25/2020 10:10 AM, Tracy Carcione via NFBCS wrote:
>>>> When I was complaining about 3270 accessibility a couple weeks ago, 
>>>> some
>>>> people seemed to say that it was because 3270 emulation is old and not
>>>> used so much anymore.  I see that.  I know I'm a bit of a dinosaur.
>>>> But this morning, I thought I saw an opportunity to start moving out of
>>>> the old legacy system and into another system supported by my group.  I
>>>> asked my boss about the possibilities, and he said that that would be
>>>> fine, except that system has a lot of Citrix-hosted applications, 
>>>> and we
>>>> know making Jaws and Citrix play together is a real pain.
>>>> Citrix is common as dirt.  I think my whole IT department uses it a 
>>>> lot,
>>>> but not me.  I know how to get Jaws to work with it, but it takes quite
>>>> a
>>>> bit of coordination, and, if that coordination is with outside vendors,
>>>> it's even more complicated.
>>>>
>>>> I think Jack is right.  We of NFBCS should be working on accessibility
>>>> for
>>>> programmers.  I don't know what that would entail, but I think we need
>>>> to
>>>> do it, or we'll have more and more problems.  The things we need access
>>>> to
>>>> are a lot more complicated than Granny getting her email.
>>>> Now, please, tell me I'm all wet, and there are simple solutions to my
>>>> problems.
>>>> Tracy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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