[NFBCS] Board Approval

Sat Mar 7 00:38:20 UTC 2020

Greetings, Kevin, Bryan, Peter, and everyone,

First, Kevin, I've created a number of constitutions for new chapters and divisions under the New Jersey affiliate, as well as worked to amend others, including the affiliate's itself to bring them up-to-date. I obviously had to make sure they were in compliance with the national constitution. In every one I've worked on or simply read, there is a statement that reads, "the purpose of the Board of Directors is to transact business between meetings" of the full organization, and the only time the full organization of NFBCS meets is at National Convention.

Bryan, you are absolutely correct that we are a volunteer organization, and I very much appreciate that you are working to bring a new NFBCS website to fruition. That being said, however, we are an organization that needs to follow its constitution, which is why the website needs NFBCS Board approval. It's a necessary process, but it's not difficult or time consuming. President Buhrow simply needs to email the Board members directly with the proposal and any pertinent details, and once he gets a majority to approve, which I also believe will be the case, he can let us know via this listserv and this whole discussion can be put to rest.

It's not a matter of people thinking there is anything underhanded or untoward going on, I certainly don't. We just can't allow ourselves to cut corners. Organizations that are okay with it can quickly find themselves facing a boatload of problems.

Take care,
   Ryan

Ryan Stevens, Parliamentarian
National Federation of the Blind of New Jersey/
Member, NFB in Computer Science

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From: NFBCS <nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Kevin via NFBCS
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2020 6:01 PM
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Cc: Kevin <kevinsisco61784 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [NFBCS] Board Approval

We seem to be disagreeing a great deal about NFB policy and what the constitution says.  Hmmm, think I'll check the national website.

On 3/6/2020 5:00 PM, Peter Donahue via NFBCS wrote:
> Hello again everyone,
>
> I managed a number of NFB Websites in the late 1000s. In every case approval
> for putting up each website had to come from a state or national president
> with their respective board's approval. National may have bigger fish to fry
> but the division board would need to approve of creating its Web presence
> before these resources can be built. I'm speaking from my own experience
> concerning this matter. All the best.
>
> Peter Donahue
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NFBCS <nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione via NFBCS
> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2020 1:00 PM
> To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>
> Subject: Re: [NFBCS] Board Approval
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> I really don't think that's how it works.  A division I'm part of in Jersey
> has regular events.  The state president is aware of the events, and I
> suppose he could say No if he thought something was totally cockamamie, but
> I'm sure National has much bigger fish to fry.
> A national division like NFBCS might have different rules regarding
> something like a website, though.  I suppose National would want to know of
> its existence, but why wouldn't they approve?
> Tracy
>
>
>> How does the NFB ever get anything done with such a rule? A local
>> chapter wants to have some kind of function and they have to clear it
>> first with the national president? That's sort of cumbersome don't you
>> think? Also how far does this rule apply particularly to individuals?
>>
>> Greg
>>
>>> On Mar 5, 2020, at 12:19 PM, Peter Donahue via NFBCS
>>> <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello everyone,
>>>
>>> Appointed and board members are two different animals. It has been a
>>> long-standing policy of the federation that any actions an
>>> individual, local chapter, or division chooses to take must be
>>> approved by the national president, the chapter or division board of
>>> directors before projects such as setting up division websites can go
>>> forward. I know this from first-hand experience, and have been called
>>> out by none other than Dr. Maurer for wanting to conduct an activity
>>> at a past national convention without his approval. This is right in
>>> the organization's constitution. All of the ideas we've discussed
>>> here are great but we need to be sure the division board of directors
> approves of them.
>>> Peter Donahue
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NFBCS <nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Kevin via NFBCS
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2020 9:10 AM
>>> To: Bryan Duarte <bjduarte at asu.edu>; NFB in Computer Science Mailing
>>> List <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Kevin <kevinsisco61784 at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [NFBCS] Division Website
>>>
>>> And as an appointed member, do you have a problem with it?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/4/2020 9:04 PM, Bryan Duarte wrote:
>>>> I am an appointed member of this division.
>>>>
>>>> Bryan Duarte
>>>>
>>>> PhD Computer Science Research student IGERT Fellow, CUbiC Lab,
>>>> Arizona State University
>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 4, 2020, at 6:55 PM, Kevin via NFBCS <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ï»¿I highly doubt the board would have a problem.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/4/2020 8:31 PM, Peter Donahue via NFBCS wrote:
>>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Did you have permission from the division board to do this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Peter Donahue
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: NFBCS <nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Bryan Duarte
>>>>>> via NFBCS
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2020 4:54 PM
>>>>>> To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Cc: Bryan Duarte <bjduarte at asu.edu>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [NFBCS] Division Website
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wanted to share this link. I created a Slack workspace for the
>>>>>> NFB CS division. I do not think it should take away from this
>>>>>> mailing list at all but it would be a great way to collaborate and
>>>>>> brainstorm on projects such as the website/wiki.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://join.slack.com/t/nfbcomputersc-kuf4276/shared_invite/enQtO
>>>>>> TY5ODA4Njk0MzU0LTM3ZDhkODQ5NzBiMjQ2NzE0MDlkMTkyMWFiNDk4MmNjMTQ5OGY
>>>>>> xNTgwYjUxNDdiNzNkYWI4ZDIzN2E3OGNiZjQ
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bryan Duarte | software engineer
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Arizona State University Computer Science Ph.D Student IGERT
>>>>>> Fellow <http://www.igert.org/projects/264.html>
>>>>>> Alliance for Person-centered Accessible Technology Center for
>>>>>> Cognitive Ubiquitous Computing <https://cubic.asu.edu/> Google
>>>>>> Scholar Profile
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