[NFBCS] languages

Sat Mar 7 07:50:06 UTC 2020

I've also been using VSCode the last week or two, and I'm really
impressed how great it is nowadays. I do miss a couple of things from
EdSharp, so I created a simple extension that will tell me the
indentation level and current cursor position after a keystroke. I
next want to add a way to get notified when there is folded code on
the line that currently has focus. Right now, that info doesn't appear
to get shared via screen readers.

Aaron

On 3/5/20, Andy B. via NFBCS <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Pressing CONTROL+M while in the editor will trap or untrap tabs. Thus, the
> add-on is no longer needed. Microsoft also fixed the autocomplete problems
> with NVDA. It no longer reads the entire line with the suggestion inserted.
> It now only reads the suggestion when arrowing through choices. Make sure
> you get Code Insiders though.
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> Andy Borka
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> From: Timothy Breitenfeldt
> Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2020 11:06 AM
> To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List
> Cc: Andy Borka
> Subject: Re: [NFBCS] languages
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> Hi, I have been using VS code for a couple months off and on for node
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> js and react. When I first installed it I had heard mixed things about
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> the accessibility of VS code and played with it a little with JAWS and
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> was not happy with the accessibility at all, the big one was the lack
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> of tab trapping, but I only tried NVDA a bit. Then I heard about the
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> VS code addon for NVDA and started using that. So that is great if we
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> don't need the addon anymore. I will have to experiment with that
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> soon. I have never played with VS Code on Linux, so I don't know about
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> that. All I know is that I have been using VS Code regularly the past
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> couple weeks with NVDA using the addon and it works pretty well. It
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> would be nice to be able to uninstall the VS code addon though.
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> Timothy Breitenfeldt
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> On 3/4/20, Andy Borka via NFBCS <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>> When was the last time you checked out vs code? Insiders is miles away
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>> the release version in terms of accessibility, and much lighter on
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>> and learning curve. If you are talking about the Linux version of vs code
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>> insiders, then I would agree that it is usable, but not the best in
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>> accessibility yet. I don’t think we need the NVDA add-on anymore, because
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>> addressed issues with autocomplete and some editor problems which
>> Microsoft
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>> has fixed since then.
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>> Andy Borka
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>> From: Timothy Breitenfeldt via NFBCS
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>> Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 12:55 PM
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>> To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List
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>> Cc: Timothy Breitenfeldt; Bryan Schulz
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>> Subject: Re: [NFBCS] languages
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>> Hi, this is actually things that I have been trained on over hte past
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>> couple months. Although I think you are a little confused, hibernate
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>> is an ORM (Object Relationship mapper) library used with java, where
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>> spring is a web framework for building web applications in java.
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>> Spring has a couple versions to it, spring MVC, spring REST, and Spring
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>> boot.
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>> Spring MVC which you mentioned, is an architecture that allows you to
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>> leverage MVC (model view controller) to write java code that
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>> manipulates some time of model which is probably a database, and send
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>> the data to the view, or web browser to be rednered. Spring MVC uses
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>> jsp (java server pages) to access the model's data, and that is
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>> converted to regular HTML before it is pushed out the door to the
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>> browser.
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>> Spring REST is the newer architecture used for building rest APIs, and
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>> is expected to be consumed by ajax weather through react, angular or
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>> some other javascript.
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>> Spring boot is the latest and greatest spring architecture that uses
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>> Spring REST, but provides a lot of additional features to simplify
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>> setup and in general make the programmers life easier. It is not
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>> really different from spring REST in functionality.
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>> When building a spring web application regardless of the spring
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>> architecture you are more than likely going to be hitting a database,
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>> which means you are likely to be using JDBC directly or an ORM (object
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>> relation Mapper)  library. JDBC is just the java database connector
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>> interface for connecting to databases and making queries like would in
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>> any other language. Hibernate is an example of an ORM where you create
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>> plane java objects that act as data stores, in other words it is a
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>> class that has fields, getters, setters and a constructor, and you
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>> mark that class up with anotations that label which field is mapped to
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>> which column in which table in the database. This abstracts away the
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>> need to generally make SQL queries at all, and you can just say things
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>> user.save(), or user.getOne(5).
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>> As to your question if it is accessible, yes. I am nearly completely
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>> blind and use NVDA primarily for development and JAWS as needed. I use
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>> Eclipse for writing my java code and VS Code for writing my front end.
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>> I use adminer for managing my databases. Both eclipse and VS Code have
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>> NVDA addons that you can install that make development much easier.
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>> Eclipse out of the box is not to bad for JAWS or NVDA, although I feel
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>> that in general NVDA works a bit better than JAWS here, and with the
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>> addon much better. VS Code is a different story, neither JAWS or NVDA
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>> works well out of the box, as far as I know jaws does not have scrips
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>> for improving the accessibility for VS Code, NVDA does though and it
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>> works pretty well, although not as well as full blown visual studio.
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>> Sorry, that was probably more information than you wanted. Hope it helps.
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>> Timothy Breitenfeldt
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>> On 3/4/20, Bryan Schulz via NFBCS <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>>> Hi,
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>>> What are Hibernate and Spring MVC And how difficult are they to program
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>>> with
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>>> jaws?
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>>> Bryan
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