[NFBCS] Flyout or expanded Menus

Tue Feb 23 16:14:12 UTC 2021

Tracy:

Navigating the parkseed.com site, I found an interesting issue which I had
never encountered before. I found vegetables and herbs collapsed, using
Chrome. I pressed Enter to expand the menu. Then, I hit tab once and got
into a list which then turned off the virtual cursor. Pressing Plus on the
number pad would not turn the virtual cursor back on. However, I was able to
navigate through a long list of items with the down arrow key until I
reached direct-so vegetables. I've never seen this kind of behavior before.
This is a good example about how modern web designs can throw us
off-especially with older versions of a browser or screen reading program.
'm glad you got this to work with Firefox.

Cordially,

Curtis Chong

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Sorry, I was casual about my writing.  It's Vegetables and Herbs, and, after
that, I wanted direct-sow veg something.  But I got it to work with Firefox
today.
Tracy

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Hello Tracy:

I am trying to replicate what you did on the parkseed.com site. You said:

"I went to parkseed.com, picked vegetable seeds, and then tried to pick
direct-sow veggies."

I could not find "vegetable seeds" on the main page which came up. What am I
missing? Perhaps one has to register and log in?

Cordially,

Curtis Chong

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Thanks for all the tips.

I was able to access what I wanted this morning, using Jaws and Firefox.  I

used space to expand the menu, then tab to find the section I wanted.

I was not able to get to the links I wanted by arrowing down; tab was the

only way.

Tracy

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Subject: Re: [NFBCS] Flyout or expanded Menus

I wasn't able to find the menu you're talking about, but after hitting enter

did you try alt+down-arrow to expand and navigate the list without

activating the items as you land on them?

--

Christopher (AKA CJ)

Chaltain at Outlook

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> 

> Once you had expanded the menu, were you able to pick something from the

> submenu?

> I expanded the menu with Enter, but then I couldn't pick from the submenu.

> Tracy

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> Tracy:

> 

> I was able to expand the menu with space. Using Chrome and the latest JAWS

> 2021.

> 

> Curtis

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> 

> Funnily enough, I just now got what seems like the same problem using an

older

> version of Jaws and Chrome.  I'll have to try the website with Firefox.

> If anyone's interested, I went to parkseed.com, picked vegetable seeds,

and

> then tried to pick direct-sow veggies.  Couldn't do it--the menu collapsed

and I

> was back where I started.

> Tracy

> 

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> Hello:

> 

> Tracy makes some very valid points. Also, it would be worth determining if

the

> problem exists with one browser and is fixed by another or if all browsers

exhibit

> the same behavior. What we are trying to do here is to determine what has

> changed since this last worked. It would be unfortunate if it turns out

that the

> most recent JAWS update caused this problem.

> 

> With respect to the latest update of JAWS, I encountered a problem with

emojis

> which could only be fixed by completely removing JAWS and all shared

> components and then reinstalling without migrating any settings from the

> previous versions. By running into this problem, I may have inadvertently

> revealed a possible bug with the JAWS migration tool.

> 

> Cordially,

> 

> Curtis Chong

> 

> 

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> Did you update Jaws recently?  Did the menus work before you updated Jaws,

> and not after?

> Could you unload Jaws with insert +F4, and then try the menus with

Narrator?

> If it works, you could restart Jaws and turn off Narrator when you're

where you

> need to be. Not ideal, but maybe worth a try.

> Tracy

> 

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> Hello:

> 

> I'm now having trouble using the menu function on my school's website. I

used

> to be able to press enter on the course work button, which brought up a

> submenu of 15 items. To make a choice, you just use your up and down down

> arrow keys to find your choice and press enter. Now this method no longer

> works. Jaws 2021 tell me that the menu has expanded, but the first choice

on

> the menu no longer appears. Sometimes I land on the glossary choice, which

is

> in the middle of the list. Pressing enter and the tab key doesn't work

because it

> takes your focus away from the menu. I'm not sure why this stopped

working.

> Did my school make an update or is the menu no longer accessible with

Jaws? I

> would send the page, but you have to log in since it is a university site.

Thanks

> for any and all feedback.

> 

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> --

> Leslie Fairall

> mailto:fairall at shellworld.net

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