[NFBCS] Flyout or expanded Menus

[David Andrews]

This could because the page put you in Applications Mode. Then the 
arrows don't always work. This mode isn't necessary, in most cases, 
but is one of the most c common ARIA mistakes.

Dave

At 09:28 AM 2/23/2021, you wrote:
>Thanks for all the tips.
>I was able to access what I wanted this morning, using Jaws and Firefox.  I
>used space to expand the menu, then tab to find the section I wanted.
>I was not able to get to the links I wanted by arrowing down; tab was the
>only way.
>Tracy
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: NFBCS [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Christopher
>Chaltain via NFBCS
>Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2021 7:48 AM
>To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List
>Cc: Christopher Chaltain; Tracy Carcione
>Subject: Re: [NFBCS] Flyout or expanded Menus
>
>I wasn't able to find the menu you're talking about, but after hitting enter
>did you try alt+down-arrow to expand and navigate the list without
>activating the items as you land on them?
>
>--
>Christopher (AKA CJ)
>Chaltain at Outlook
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: NFBCS <nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione via
> > NFBCS
> > Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 12:52 PM
> > To: 'NFB in Computer Science Mailing List' <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
> > Cc: Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>
> > Subject: Re: [NFBCS] Flyout or expanded Menus
> >
> > Once you had expanded the menu, were you able to pick something from the
> > submenu?
> > I expanded the menu with Enter, but then I couldn't pick from the submenu.
> > Tracy
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: NFBCS [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
>via
> > NFBCS
> > Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 1:49 PM
> > To: 'NFB in Computer Science Mailing List'
> > Cc: Curtis Chong; 'Tracy Carcione'
> > Subject: Re: [NFBCS] Flyout or expanded Menus
> >
> > Tracy:
> >
> > I was able to expand the menu with space. Using Chrome and the latest JAWS
> > 2021.
> >
> > Curtis
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: NFBCS <nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione via
> > NFBCS
> > Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 11:20 AM
> > To: 'NFB in Computer Science Mailing List' <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
> > Cc: Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>
> > Subject: Re: [NFBCS] Flyout or expanded Menus
> >
> > Funnily enough, I just now got what seems like the same problem using an
>older
> > version of Jaws and Chrome.  I'll have to try the website with Firefox.
> > If anyone's interested, I went to parkseed.com, picked vegetable seeds,
>and
> > then tried to pick direct-sow veggies.  Couldn't do it--the menu collapsed
>and I
> > was back where I started.
> > Tracy
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: NFBCS [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
>via
> > NFBCS
> > Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 12:43 PM
> > To: 'NFB in Computer Science Mailing List'
> > Cc: Curtis Chong; 'Tracy Carcione'
> > Subject: Re: [NFBCS] Flyout or expanded Menus
> >
> > Hello:
> >
> > Tracy makes some very valid points. Also, it would be worth determining if
>the
> > problem exists with one browser and is fixed by another or if all browsers
>exhibit
> > the same behavior. What we are trying to do here is to determine what has
> > changed since this last worked. It would be unfortunate if it turns out
>that the
> > most recent JAWS update caused this problem.
> >
> > With respect to the latest update of JAWS, I encountered a problem with
>emojis
> > which could only be fixed by completely removing JAWS and all shared
> > components and then reinstalling without migrating any settings from the
> > previous versions. By running into this problem, I may have inadvertently
> > revealed a possible bug with the JAWS migration tool.
> >
> > Cordially,
> >
> > Curtis Chong
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: NFBCS <nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione via
> > NFBCS
> > Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 10:33 AM
> > To: 'NFB in Computer Science Mailing List' <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
> > Cc: Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>
> > Subject: Re: [NFBCS] Flyout or expanded Menus
> >
> > Did you update Jaws recently?  Did the menus work before you updated Jaws,
> > and not after?
> > Could you unload Jaws with insert +F4, and then try the menus with
>Narrator?
> > If it works, you could restart Jaws and turn off Narrator when you're
>where you
> > need to be. Not ideal, but maybe worth a try.
> > Tracy
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: NFBCS [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Leslie Fairall
>via
> > NFBCS
> > Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 12:02 PM
> > To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List
> > Cc: Leslie Fairall
> > Subject: [NFBCS] Flyout or expanded Menus
> >
> > Hello:
> >
> > I'm now having trouble using the menu function on my school's website. I
>used
> > to be able to press enter on the course work button, which brought up a
> > submenu of 15 items. To make a choice, you just use your up and down down
> > arrow keys to find your choice and press enter. Now this method no longer
> > works. Jaws 2021 tell me that the menu has expanded, but the first choice
>on
> > the menu no longer appears. Sometimes I land on the glossary choice, which
>is
> > in the middle of the list. Pressing enter and the tab key doesn't work
>because it
> > takes your focus away from the menu. I'm not sure why this stopped
>working.
> > Did my school make an update or is the menu no longer accessible with
>Jaws? I
> > would send the page, but you have to log in since it is a university site.
>Thanks
> > for any and all feedback.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Leslie Fairall
> > mailto:fairall at shellworld.net