[NFBCS] IRC Client
Doug Lee
dgl at dlee.org
Tue Sep 7 19:45:58 UTC 2021
If you mean me, I actually did mean IrcII. I've seen Irssi but never used it.
On Tue, Sep 07, 2021 at 02:22:00PM -0500, NFBCS mailing list wrote:
I assume you meant Irssi instead of IrcII. I used that and mIRC. I am totally blind.
> On Sep 7, 2021, at 2:18 PM, Doug Lee via NFBCS <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> There are a lot of alternatives, and even a few types of them. mIRC was already suggested and was, in the 90s,
> the most popular IRC client among sighted users to my knowledge, and was also (I think) used by blind users at
> the time. I have no idea how well maintained it has been since.
>
> There are Windows interfaces like mIRC, web interfaces, text/terminal interfaces like the original IrcII which
> is the one I've always used, and even programs that talk to IRC servers while also serving other needs, one of
> the older of these being Miranda, which could handle a bunch of chat systems at once but, I was told years
> ago, was a bit tricky to set up.
>
> So I guess my first question would be which interface type you most prefer? mIRC is probably good if you like
> a Windows GUI approach. I'm a text/terminal fan, so I've stuck with IrcII for all these years and have run it
> under FreeBSD, Linux, MacOS, and could probably run it under WSL on Windows.
>
> My second question, more a curiosity, is this though: I wonder how you'll be using IRC to take minutes.
> If you're logging play-by-play notes into a channel of meeting participants, IRC could work well; and that's
> what I assume you are trying to do. But in case it matters to your situation, I don't consider IRC at all
> private; which means that any minutes or notes you take could theoretically reach people who are not in the
> meeting.
>
> Best of luck and hope this was helpful.
>
> On Tue, Sep 07, 2021 at 06:51:04PM +0000, NFBCS mailing list wrote:
> Hello,
>
> In the future, I will use the Internet Relay Chat (IRC) system to take minutes at meetings. I am new to IRC. I will be using a windows 10 system.
>
> I have been trying to use the World Wide Web Consortium's public IRC web client at
> "https://irc.w3.org/".
>
> If I open this client, and go to the channel (#irchelp), and hit enter, I am taken into that channel. I am in an edit field. If I type the command (/help who), and hit enter, I do not see any response. I am using JAWS 2021 and also NVDA. I have looked around using the JAWS and touch cursors. I have used the screen review and object review mode with NVDA as well.
>
> Does anyone know where the command output is? Do you have a favorite IRC client?
>
> I have heard of the MIRC client.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Regards
> Louis Maher
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> E-mail: ljmaher03 at outlook.com
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"It's not easy to be crafty and winsome at the same time, and few accomplish
it after the age of six." --John W. Gardner and Francesca Gardner Reese
%
"While they were saying among themselves it cannot be done, it was
done." --Helen Keller
%
"No person is your friend who demands your silence or denies your
right to grow." --Alice Walker
%
"Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's
character, give him power." -Abraham Lincoln
%
"A mailing list is a crude but effective cross between a
chain letter and a shouting match." -Andrew Kantor
%
A mailing list is like a car where brakes and accelerator are the same pedal:
The effect of putting your foot down is a bit hard to predict! (04/04/2012)
%
"The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds
new discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' ('I found it!') but rather 'hmm....
that's funny...'" -- Isaac Asimov
%
"It is not the mountain in the distance which makes you want to stop
walking; but the grain of sand in your shoe." --Anon
%
"Innovation is hard to schedule." -- Dan Fylstra
%
"There are no guarantees. From a standpoint of fear, none are
strong enough. From a standpoint of love, none are necessary."
- from Emmanuel's Book II
%
"Our chief want in life is somebody who will make us do what
we can. {Ralph Waldo Emerson}
%
"Sometimes I think my learning curve is a circle." -- David Andrews
%
"I before E, except after C, or when sounded like A, as in neighbor
and weigh, except for when weird foreign concierges seize neither
leisure nor science from the height of society."
%
"Determine that the thing can and shall be done, and then...find
the way." - Abraham Lincoln
%
"The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them
to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum
%
"It is difficult to produce a television documentary that is both
incisive and probing when every twelve minutes one is interrupted by
dancing rabbits singing about toilet paper." --Rod Serling
%
"All these years, the people said, 'He's acting like a kid.'
He did not know he could not fly, so he did."
--Guy Clark, "The Cape" (Dublin Blues)
%
"If you refuse to be made straight when you are green,
you will not be made straight when you are dry." {African}
%
There is more freedom in knowing how to handle pain than in knowing
how to avoid it. (4/29/01)
%
The very smart may feel they have nothing to learn from anyone;
The very wise will find something to learn from everyone. (7/14/01)
%
In laughter, love is found; but in tears, it is forged. (12/09/01)
%
Snowmen fall from heaven, unassembled.
--anon
%
Don't be afraid your life will end; be afraid that itwill never begin.
-- Grace Hansen
%
No one alive is beyond hope; every second of life is a chance.
(08/29/02)
%
"The most exhausting thing in life is being insincere."
- Anne Morrow Lindbergh {American Author}
%
"Believe, when you are most unhappy, that there is something for you
to do in the world. So long as you can sweeten another's pain, life is
not in vain." --Helen Keller
%
"You must let me try, for a true soldier does not admit defeat before
the battle."
--Helen Keller (in a letter to the president of Radcliffe College)
%
"Pray devoutly, but hammer stoutly."
--Sir William G. Benham
%
"Is your cucumber bitter? Throw it away. Are there briars in your
path? Turn aside. That is enough. Do not go on to say, `Why were
things of this sort ever brought into the world?'"
--Marcus Aurelius
%
"The U. S. Constitution doesn't guarantee happiness, only the pursuit
of it. You have to catch up with it yourself." --Benjamin Franklin
%
"Characters live to be noticed. People with character notice how
they live." -- Nancy Moser
%
"Never does the human soul appear so strong as when it foregoes
revenge, and dares forgive an injury." --E. H. Chapin
%
"There's no limit to what a man can do or where he can go if he
doesn't mind who gets the credit." Ronald Reagan?
%
"The best executive is the one who has sense enough to pick good men to do
what he wants done, and self-restraint enough to keep from meddling with
them while they do it."--Theodore Roosevelt
%
Freedom is not the ability to have what we want. Freedom is merely the
ability to seek it. To be free defines what we can do, not what we can get.
(03/28/05)
%
"I am a leader by default, only because nature does not allow a vacuum."
Bishop Desmond Tutu
%
"When there is no enemy within, the enemies outside cannot hurt you."
--African Proverb
%
"I forgot, because I wanted to forget, except I don't remember
forgetting." --Sarah Alawami
%
"I honestly believe it is better to know nothing than to know what ain't so."
- Josh Billings, 1818-1885 (in "Solemn Thoughts")
%
"When your best-laid plans have turned to dust, vacuum!"
- Whoopi Goldberg
%
What is most worth paying for, you buy with the life you live.
(11/10/07)
%
Reality is not what we see. Reality is what is, whether we see it or not.
(03/01/09)
%
In healthy competition, the best battles are not for status, but for excellence;
and the battles are not between me and you,
but between you and you, and between me and me. (08/15/2009)
%
Time is the friend of one who is true, and the enemy of one who isn't.
(02/05/2010)
%
"Maturity is knowing that the world owes you nothing. Freedom is knowing you owe it the same. Character is how
you respond to the knowing." --Jack Kincaid
%
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