[NFBCS] {Spam?} RE: RE: Inaccessible websites

Mon Apr 4 13:58:27 UTC 2022

Would it be good to go after Go Daddy or one of the other big guys who allege to help businesses create websites?
Tracy

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Hello:

One of the interesting and vexing issues we are having to confront has to do with the software used to create websites. It is becoming increasingly the case that companies use a tool that is designed to make it easier for them to put up and manage their websites. Thus, what we see are folks who do not look directly at the HTML code which they need to examine to ensure accessibility. There are well-documented ways to accessibly code link, radio buttons, and other controls on a web page, but the documentation does not consider that the developer may be one or two layers removed from the HTML that is ultimately created by the development software.

In theory, development tools should, by default, generate HTML that meets all of the accessibility requirements of WCAG. But, to a growing extent, we are being confronted with, as Tracy correctly points out, an ever-growing number of sites that are not completely accessible to the blind.

Federal regulations and legislation requiring accessibility are but the first step to addressing this problem.

Respectfully,

Curtis Chong

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I would settle for having someone to contact who would do something.  With a small business, that’s possible, but then they may not have the resources or know-how to do anything about it.  

I know NFB files lawsuits about this, and that’s great.  But the number of problems seems to dwarf the number of lawsuits.  Last time I brought this up, some people said I should try public shaming on Twitter.  Is there a hashtag inaccessible, or something like that?  

Really, I hear constantly on the news about this or that minority yelling about something, but it’s never disabled people yelling about inaccessibility.  Shouldn’t we be yelling too?

Tracy

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I ditto what you said Tracy.

I am finding sites with links that do nothing more and more lately.

One site I pay for services for was accessible but now has some type of text field at the top of each page where they have at least text and likely links and other objects.

All I hear is something about a magnifying glass and nothing else inside what sounds like a text box.

I sent them several  messages about it and they replied for me to watch their notifications but after quite some time their messages are just ads for the most part,

Some new features for sighted users (which sound more and more inaccessible)  and nothing about accessibility at all.

You are right on!

I too hope some legislation will be implemented but I’m not holding my breath.

Too bad the big blind organizations are not more up front and loud in the media about the problems and hitting more companies with more and more legal actions, sigh.

>From what I have heard it may not be possible for a small individual to file a successful suit against most of these companies.

Richard R. Thomas (Rick USA)

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Subject: [NFBCS] Inaccessible websites

I am finding more and more inaccessible websites.  I try them with Firefox

and Chrome, and no joy.  Buttons go nowhere.  Links to pop-up menus do

nothing.  Formfields say they're form fields, but I can't type in them.

It's very frustrating.  Big companies or small businesses, it's all

hit-or-miss.  I sure hope our legislation passes about this, but even then

it will take years to have an effect.  And meantime I either don't shop

where I want, or I pay AIRA to help me.  It's making me nuts.

Tracy

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