[NFBCS] {Spam?} Re: {Spam?} Re: NFBCS RE: Inaccessible websites
Christopher Chaltain
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Mon Apr 4 17:53:59 UTC 2022
That's why it's always best to ask before assuming a whole bunch of people are doing something that just doesn't make any sense.
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Christopher (AKA CJ)
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-----Original Message-----
From: NFBCS <nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Amanda Lacy via NFBCS
Sent: Monday, April 4, 2022 12:44 PM
To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Amanda Lacy <lacy925 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [NFBCS] {Spam?} Re: {Spam?} Re: NFBCS RE: Inaccessible websites
Donald, that's quite weird that the server keeps adding the word "spam." I had assumed that someone was replying from their spam folder for some reason.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Apr 4, 2022, at 10:54 AM, Donald Winiecki via NFBCS <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> That "{Spam?}" thing is happening at the NFB's mailserver. Nobody in
> this group is causing that.
>
> They will have to fix their settings to solve the issue.
>
> Best,
>
> _don
>
>
>> On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 9:49 AM Amanda Lacy via NFBCS
>> <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Y'all, cut it out with the repeated "spam" in braces in the subject
>> line. It makes no sense.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Apr 4, 2022, at 10:26 AM, Derrick Day via NFBCS
>>> <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Without having full knowledge of your situation, I will tell you
>>> that
>> different screen readers tend to be better at working with websites
>> generated by different code generators. WordPress actually has a
>> plugin that businesses can implement that is specifically designed
>> for NVDA and I believe Go Daddy does as well but I have limited experience with that one.
>> The challenge is that anyone can make WordPress plugins and often
>> times, its these independent developers who make addons which brings
>> down a website that uses these implementations. Its kind of like the
>> weakest link in the chain kind of thing. Going after the providers is
>> probably not going to yield the expected results because these
>> platforms only a generate a fraction of the code on a site. Just as
>> Microsoft is not responsible for a faulty piece of software that you
>> install on your computer, Go Daddy can’t really do much about John
>> Smith’s inaccessible plugin. If legislation is passed, hopefully
>> websites will be forced to boycott these bad plugins which will run
>> there business into the ground but this is going to be extremely
>> messy to fix and I have a hard time believing that the government will maintain the game of WackaMole.
>>> More focus on teaching good accessible coding practices would help
>>> but
>> until we can use financial pressure as leverage, I don’t think we
>> will see much success. Has anyone used any good accessible website
>> builders? I have used WordPress in the past which is good, but I was
>> wondering if anyone has ever had any success with any others.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Derrick C. Day
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: NFBCS <nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org> on behalf of Lewis Wood via
>> NFBCS <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, April 4, 2022 9:23:42 AM
>>> To: 'NFB in Computer Science Mailing List' <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Lewis Wood <lewislwood at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: [NFBCS] {Spam?} RE: {Spam?} RE: {Spam?} RE: Inaccessible
>> websites
>>>
>>> If businesses are using code generators, that means it should be a
>> cheaper fix. Since we can target the code generators and impact their
>> business model.
>>>
>>> For example React generates Html and gives control down to the html
>> layer. Perhaps the React designers should automatically analyze
>> their code for accessibility standards and notify the developer with warnings.
>>> This way as a legal point when the business is approached and they
>>> claim
>> no knowledge, we can show the developer warning flags. This way the
>> business confronts their developer company and sues them to be compliant.
>>>
>>> Meantime I will continue to do workarounds such as jaws to cursor
>>> and
>> move around to figure what I am typing in. Or use be my eyes.
>>>
>>> Lewis Wood
>>> lewislwood at gmail.com
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NFBCS <nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Larry Wayland
>>> via
>> NFBCS
>>> Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2022 11:24 PM
>>> To: 'NFB in Computer Science Mailing List' <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Larry Wayland <lhwayland at sbcglobal.net>
>>> Subject: [NFBCS] {Spam?} RE: {Spam?} RE: Inaccessible websites
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello:
>>> I absolutely agree. I read a couple of weeks ago somewhere. I'm
>>> sorry,
>> I don't remember where. That only 2 percent of web sites are
>> completely accessible.
>>> Yes Tracy we should be yelling loud and clear.
>>> Larry
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NFBCS [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Curtis
>>> Chong
>> via NFBCS
>>> Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2022 1:50 PM
>>> To: 'NFB in Computer Science Mailing List' <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Curtis Chong <chong.curtis at gmail.com>; 'Tracy Carcione' <
>> carcione at access.net>
>>> Subject: [NFBCS] {Spam?} RE: Inaccessible websites
>>>
>>> Hello:
>>>
>>> One of the interesting and vexing issues we are having to confront
>>> has
>> to do with the software used to create websites. It is becoming
>> increasingly the case that companies use a tool that is designed to
>> make it easier for them to put up and manage their websites. Thus,
>> what we see are folks who do not look directly at the HTML code which
>> they need to examine to ensure accessibility. There are
>> well-documented ways to accessibly code link, radio buttons, and
>> other controls on a web page, but the documentation does not consider
>> that the developer may be one or two layers removed from the HTML
>> that is ultimately created by the development software.
>>>
>>> In theory, development tools should, by default, generate HTML that
>> meets all of the accessibility requirements of WCAG. But, to a
>> growing extent, we are being confronted with, as Tracy correctly
>> points out, an ever-growing number of sites that are not completely
>> accessible to the blind.
>>>
>>> Federal regulations and legislation requiring accessibility are but
>>> the
>> first step to addressing this problem.
>>>
>>> Respectfully,
>>>
>>> Curtis Chong
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NFBCS <nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione
>>> via
>> NFBCS
>>> Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2022 11:21 AM
>>> To: 'NFB in Computer Science Mailing List' <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [NFBCS] Inaccessible websites
>>>
>>> I would settle for having someone to contact who would do something.
>> With a small business, that’s possible, but then they may not have
>> the resources or know-how to do anything about it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I know NFB files lawsuits about this, and that’s great. But the
>>> number
>> of problems seems to dwarf the number of lawsuits. Last time I
>> brought this up, some people said I should try public shaming on
>> Twitter. Is there a hashtag inaccessible, or something like that?
>>>
>>> Really, I hear constantly on the news about this or that minority
>> yelling about something, but it’s never disabled people yelling about
>> inaccessibility. Shouldn’t we be yelling too?
>>>
>>> Tracy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: NFBCS [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Richard R.
>> Thomas via NFBCS
>>> Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2022 12:53 PM
>>> To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List
>>> Cc: Richard R. Thomas
>>> Subject: [NFBCS] {Spam?} RE: Inaccessible websites
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I ditto what you said Tracy.
>>>
>>> I am finding sites with links that do nothing more and more lately.
>>>
>>> One site I pay for services for was accessible but now has some type
>>> of
>> text field at the top of each page where they have at least text and
>> likely links and other objects.
>>>
>>> All I hear is something about a magnifying glass and nothing else
>>> inside
>> what sounds like a text box.
>>>
>>> I sent them several messages about it and they replied for me to
>>> watch
>> their notifications but after quite some time their messages are just
>> ads for the most part,
>>>
>>> Some new features for sighted users (which sound more and more
>> inaccessible) and nothing about accessibility at all.
>>>
>>> You are right on!
>>>
>>> I too hope some legislation will be implemented but I’m not holding
>>> my
>> breath.
>>>
>>> Too bad the big blind organizations are not more up front and loud
>>> in
>> the media about the problems and hitting more companies with more and
>> more legal actions, sigh.
>>>
>>> From what I have heard it may not be possible for a small individual
>>> to
>> file a successful suit against most of these companies.
>>>
>>> Richard R. Thomas (Rick USA)
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> From: Tracy Carcione via NFBCS <mailto:nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2022 10:54 AM
>>> To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List <mailto:nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Tracy Carcione <mailto:carcione at access.net>
>>> Subject: [NFBCS] Inaccessible websites
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am finding more and more inaccessible websites. I try them with
>> Firefox
>>>
>>> and Chrome, and no joy. Buttons go nowhere. Links to pop-up menus
>>> do
>>>
>>> nothing. Formfields say they're form fields, but I can't type in them.
>>>
>>> It's very frustrating. Big companies or small businesses, it's all
>>>
>>> hit-or-miss. I sure hope our legislation passes about this, but
>>> even
>> then
>>>
>>> it will take years to have an effect. And meantime I either don't
>>> shop
>>>
>>> where I want, or I pay AIRA to help me. It's making me nuts.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tracy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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