[NFBCS] Applications functions on a laptop

Thu Dec 22 22:23:48 UTC 2022

It was 5 years ago, I believe Lenovo advantage.
But I just did a quick google search if they improved it.
Here is the link:
https://support.lenovo.com/rs/en/solutions/ht074187-how-to-swap-the-fn-funct
ion-and-ctrl-control-keyboard-keys-in-bios

I prefer using a Bluetooth keyboard I like to put a headset in and take the
keyboard into the next room and do something else while reading a book with
my keyboard or reviewing code..
But it is good to have those annoying function keys swapped.

Lewis Wood
Lewislwood at gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: NFBCS <nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione via NFBCS
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 1:02 PM
To: 'NFB in Computer Science Mailing List' <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>
Subject: Re: [NFBCS] Applications functions on a laptop

Hi Lewis.  The laptop is a Lenovo Ideapad.  What app did you use to access
the BIOS?  Was it clear what to do, or was it one of those scary things
where, if I make a wrong choice, the machine is busted?
Tracy

-----Original Message-----
From: NFBCS [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lewis Wood via
NFBCS
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 1:50 PM
To: 'NFB in Computer Science Mailing List'
Cc: Lewis Wood
Subject: Re: [NFBCS] Applications functions on a laptop

I have a Lenovo Laptop.  The bios is relatively accessible using their app
to launch it. That is where I changed mine.

Also note on some laptops and keyboards sticky keys will keep a shift, or
ctrl, or alt pressed. So if you have accidentally held down one of those
keys too long, it stays on. Thus a shift + f10 becomes alt + shift + f10.
Can be annoying.
If your screen reader is set to key echo, you will hear it, but many people
do not leave key echo turned on.

Lewis Wood
lewislwood at gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: NFBCS <nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione via NFBCS
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 12:04 PM
To: 'NFB in Computer Science Mailing List' <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>
Subject: Re: [NFBCS] Applications functions on a laptop

When I did shift-f10, it went to the task list, the one that says wifi
connected, etc. 
It is rather awkward to find f10 where the keys are not separated into
groups, and then hit it with shift and function, so it's possible I did it
wrong.  But, if I did it wrong, so would my husband, and he has no patience
with that kind of thing.  He wants to hit a key and get where he's going.
Imagine that.  
I found a work-around, using alt-h and n in the "home" menu, so I guess he
can use that until I can find him an external keyboard.

I didn't know all that media keys stuff could be turned off, but I don't
have anyone handy to do it for me.  I bought him the laptop from Amazon, so
getting the seller to do it would probably been complicated.
Thanks.
Tracy

-----Original Message-----
From: NFBCS [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Christopher
Chaltain via NFBCS
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 12:49 PM
To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List
Cc: Christopher Chaltain; Tracy Carcione
Subject: Re: [NFBCS] Applications functions on a laptop

Shift-F10 should work. What happens when you press Shift-F10? Could it be
that your function keys are set to media functions? If so, it should start
working once you switch the function keys to their original settings.
Sometimes you can do this with a toggle, like Function-key+Escape, but
usually you need to do this in the laptop BIOS. What brand of laptop is it?

Not sure how to know if your keyboard has an applications key or not. I
usually go to a Best buy and just have a look for myself. Someone may be
able to tell from a picture of the laptop. If it gives the number of keys on
the keyboard then that might be a clue, but I suspect not on a laptop
keyboard, especially if it doesn't have a numeric keypad.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

-----Original Message-----
From: NFBCS <nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione via NFBCS
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 10:18 AM
To: 'NFB in Computer Science Mailing List' <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>
Subject: [NFBCS] Applications functions on a laptop

My husband's Windows laptop keyboard doesn't have an applications key.
Neither could I get Jaws right mouse click or shift-f10 to work.  Is there
another way to get at the menu I would get if I had the applications key? 

Alternatively, and maybe better, how can I be sure a connected keyboard has
an applications key before I buy it?  Is it just a standard thing on what I
think is called an enhanced keyboard?  

Well, to me it's a standard thing, but maybe not anymore.

Thanks.

Tracy

_______________________________________________
NFBCS mailing list
NFBCS at nfbnet.org
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%2
Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fnfbcs_nfbnet.org&data=05%7C01%7C%7C37913ddf88af4acbe31
108dae43838e3%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C63807322736670537
8%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haW
wiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=CljrbHSv1OJEIX%2B0%2BA%2BLfK%2FwBsyK5
Gdo69607AEmxcw%3D&reserved=0
To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NFBCS:
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%2
Fmailman%2Foptions%2Fnfbcs_nfbnet.org%2Fchaltain%2540outlook.com&data=05%7C0
1%7C%7C37913ddf88af4acbe31108dae43838e3%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7
C1%7C0%7C638073227366705378%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQ
IjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=v1saTm9uzWx
8n0KnWbH0wfscHM7M8a%2Fk%2Fm%2F15iy779U%3D&reserved=0

_______________________________________________
NFBCS mailing list
NFBCS at nfbnet.org
http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfbcs_nfbnet.org
To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NFBCS:
http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfbcs_nfbnet.org/carcione%40access.net

_______________________________________________
NFBCS mailing list
NFBCS at nfbnet.org
http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfbcs_nfbnet.org
To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NFBCS:
http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfbcs_nfbnet.org/lewislwood%40gmail.com

_______________________________________________
NFBCS mailing list
NFBCS at nfbnet.org
http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfbcs_nfbnet.org
To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NFBCS:
http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfbcs_nfbnet.org/carcione%40access.net

_______________________________________________
NFBCS mailing list
NFBCS at nfbnet.org
http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfbcs_nfbnet.org
To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NFBCS:
http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfbcs_nfbnet.org/lewislwood%40gmail.com