[NFBCS] Feedback Request

Littlefield, Tyler tyler at tysdomain.com
Fri Sep 2 00:35:07 UTC 2022


Do they need to be written by blind people for the blind? There are 
places for sure that such information could be helpful, but for the 
majority you don't need this. I would also suggest that people use the 
numerous options available to either make this information available for 
free should they write it, or create their own platform and sell their 
content without buying into a company that will take part of their work.


Finally, part of the bonus to not relying on tutorials specifically for 
<insert disability here> is that you don't deal with outdated tutorials. 
Many editors constantly update, as do web interfaces and platforms and 
it would cost quite a lot to keep up with training materials if 
accessibility changes.


Part of helping people become better professionals is teaching them how 
to properly research and learn what they need to. At times this is 
harder and I'm certainly not suggesting everyone pull themselves up by 
the bootstraps, but there is plenty of material out there that doesn't 
hit accessibility barriers and cost. I recently taught myself docker. I 
did so through the documentation, stackoverflow posts when I had 
specific issues, and tutorials written for free.




On 9/1/2022 7:40 PM, Peter via NFBCS wrote:
> Hello,
>
> 	Are they written from a blindness perspective? Yes there are lots of
> free tutorials on the Internet but do they contain the information of
> particular interest to the blind?This is the gap such tutorials would
> fulfill.
>
> Peter Donahue
>
>   
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NFBCS <nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Littlefield, Tyler via
> NFBCS
> Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2022 5:25 PM
> To: Peter via NFBCS <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Littlefield, Tyler <tyler at tysdomain.com>
> Subject: Re: [NFBCS] Feedback Request
>
> These tutorials are freely available in a lot of cases on the internet.
> Sometimes it takes looking at a couple to solve anything I need, but I will
> always look for free information rather than paying for whatever this
> service might turn out to be.
>
>
> On 9/1/2022 3:41 PM, Peter via NFBCS wrote:
>>    
>>
>> Good afternoon everyone,
>>
>>    
>>
>>                   There are many resources available to sighted
>> would-be computer professionals that for the blind have a major
>> drawback the lack of the information needed to address usability and
>> accessibility concerns for blind children and adults. Anyone who uses
>> computers has probably taken advantage of a number of tutorials
>> produce to teach the use of various computer devices and operating
>> systems, productivity software and Internet-related skill development
>> walk-through programs taught from a blindness perspective. A number of
>> blind individuals created outstanding instructional tutorials many of
>> us have used over the years. This has made it possible for many blind
>> persons  to learn the inns and outs of using devices such as
>> smartphones, and digital-audio production hardware along with computer
>> operating systems and applications such as Microsoft 365, various web
> browsers, audio and  video production software to name a few.
>>    
>>
>>                   To the best of our knowledge few if any instructional
>> tutorials exist that teach would-be blind computer professionals and
>> end users how to write computer applications using various programming
>> languages such as Python, C++, R, and others, the use of integrated
>> development environments like Microsoft Visual Studio or Visual Studio
>> Code, Eclipse, and other IDES usable by a blind computer programmer.
>>
>>    
>>
>>                   Likewise I am not aware of tutorials that instruct
>> blind youth and adults in the use of various Internet and Website
>> hosting systems like game development, Drupal, Wordpress, Joomla and
>> other content management systems or in the use of hosting platforms
>> like Amazon Web Services, Google Cloud Platform, Linode Cloud Hosting,
>> etc. With individuals and companies obtaining their computing power
>> from an online environment instead of desktop applications it is
>> important that blind users of these services know how to develop on
>> these platforms, and know the tips and tricks of handling
>> accessibility issues and finding work-arounds from those who have been
>> there and done that. Such knowledge can also help blind youth and
>> adults plan and seek employment in STEM-related careers involving
>> technology. Classroom management programs like Google Classroom is
>> another possible subject for instructional tutorials to be created.
>> Although an excellent tutorial for learning Zoom was created early
>> during the COVID 19 Pandemic and was made freely available by Jonathan
>> Mosen no such tutorials have been created to instruct the blind in the use
> of other such videoconferencing systems like Microsoft Teams and Slack.
>>    
>>
>>                   Another area where instructional material from a
>> blindness perspective is next to nonexistent is in the use and
>> management of customer relations systems such as Amazon Connect,
> Salesforce, Seibel, and others.
>>                   Some have given online classes for blind programmers
>> and in the use of other modern applications, but  I am not aware of
>> any such instructional tutorials similar to those developed in years
>> past for devices and desktop applications that teach these skills from
>> a blindness perspective that a blind individual can replay and review
>> as often as necessary to thoroughly understand the information shared
>> and to look up points that may have been missed when such classes are
> taught online.
>>                   To help create a way to make such documentation and
>> tutorials available to blind students and tech professionals answers
>> to the following questions would be very much appreciated:
>>
>>    
>>
>>                   If you wish to learn a program language or a
>> particular Internet or cloud service and obtain the work-arounds to
>> allow you to do it independently how do you obtain this instruction?
>>
>>    
>>
>>                   What have been your experiences when receiving this
>> instruction online or in a facility-based program i.e. a
>> rehabilitation center, lighthouse, etc?
>>
>>                   If you answered "Yes" to the previous question what
>> advantages and drawbacks did you experience when learning this way?
>>
>>    
>>
>> What type of programming or game development language, application
>> Website Hosting, Cloud platform development, content, management
>> customer relations System and Videoconferencing tutorials do you feel
> would be of most benefit?
>>    
>>
>>                                   Which media types would you prefer
>> for using these tutorials, audio, video, CD, DVD, downloadable files
>> with purches, online listening and viewing via subscription, text and
>> Braille hardcopy and downloadable transcripts.
>>
>>    
>>
>>                   Would you be willing to pay for these tutorials?
>>
>>    
>>
>>                   Would you want to buy individual tutorials or would
>> you subscribe to a service that would allow you to consume as many
>> tutorials as you wish similar to a subscription to services like
>> SiriusXM, Amazon Prime Video, Netflix, Disney Plus, Wondrium, ETC that
>> charges a monthly subscription fee?
>>
>>    
>>
>>                   Would you be willing to produce tutorials in your
>> area of expertise for compensation to help us grow our library?
>>
>>    
>>
>>                   Please understand that this is all exploratory at this
> time.
>> If developed a service of this kind will give blind would-be computer
>> professionals and those employed in related careers another way to
>> learn many subjects taught by experienced blind professionals who can
>> share their knowledge from a blindness perspective. Your feedback will
>> be very much appreciated.
>>
>>    
>>
>> Peter Donahue
>>
>>    
>>
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