[NFBCS] Feedback Request

Peter pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com
Fri Sep 2 23:47:56 UTC 2022


Hello Lewis and everyone,

	WWhat we're proposing is a situation similar to using a white cane
or a guide dog. Agencies that teach the use of canes and dogs ground a blind
person in basic travel techniques. They learn the proper use of each and are
introduced to a few rudimentary travel situations. Beyond that it's up to
the individual to apply that knowledge to help them navigate a wide variety
of travel situations. If they're not sure how to manage a particular travel
situation they draw upon whatever resources they can find to help them
figure things out.

	Likewise designing tutorials for the use of various IDES, and other
Internet hosting solutions would ground someone in the basics. Beyond that
it's their responsibility to find whatever resources they can utilize to
become proficient in the use of programming and Web languages and hosting
solutions. No one wants to relieve anyone of being resourceful and doing
research to master these skills at an advanced level.

Peter Donahue



-----Original Message-----
From: NFBCS <nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Lewis Wood via NFBCS
Sent: Friday, September 2, 2022 4:51 PM
To: 'NFB in Computer Science Mailing List' <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Lewis Wood <lewislwood at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [NFBCS] Feedback Request

The most important item I would say is the IDE the blind person will be
using/ techniques.
However, since IDE's have been evolving in accessibility so quickly: Be
prepared to be outdated quickly.

Core language resources are numerous and many are partially accessible at
least, some completely.



Lewis Wood
lewislwood at gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: NFBCS <nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Littlefield, Tyler via
NFBCS
Sent: Friday, September 2, 2022 2:11 PM
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Cc: Littlefield, Tyler <tyler at tysdomain.com>
Subject: Re: [NFBCS] Feedback Request

For seeking feedback you sure are pushing this concept. Can you point to
something programming related you tried to learn that you needed a whole
platform around how to do things for blind people for? For that matter,
commtech USA already does what you're looking for in some sense, and most of
us with professional experience are willing and happy to help in areas we
know about when people ask questions.


On 9/2/2022 1:45 PM, Peter via NFBCS wrote:
> Hello Tracy and everyone,
>
> And those books from services like bookshare.org or something posted 
> online written by John and Jane Q sighted person don't include the 
> kind of information that would enable blind developers to use these 
> apps and resources more efficiently. Talk of an NFBCS Website has also
occurred here.
> We have yet to see this division launch its own Website. All the best.
>
> Peter Donahue
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NFBCS <nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione via 
> NFBCS
> Sent: Friday, September 2, 2022 7:06 AM
> To: 'NFB in Computer Science Mailing List' <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>
> Subject: Re: [NFBCS] Feedback Request
>
> Sometime not so very long ago, we had a discussion of how to make it 
> easier for blind people to find accessibility tips shared on this 
> list.  At the time, and perhaps still, it was not easy to search the 
> list archives, if non-listers even know they exist, and it's been a 
> long time since I've seen something from an NFB list turn up in a 
> Google
search.
> I agree with Tyler that there are lots of free resources that work 
> fine for blind people, and, like Robert, I use Bookshare to hunt up 
> more detailed resources when I need them.  But it would be good if it 
> was easier to find info blind people have worked out to make some 
> things
easier.
> Tracy
>
>
>
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