[NFBCS] Image in email

Thu Jan 12 01:39:18 UTC 2023

In a pinch, I’ll sometimes grab my iPhone or iPad, pop open Microsoft SeeingAI to short text or document modes and use it on my computer screen if I’m in a hurry and want a quick but sometimes inaccurate OCR.

I’m not sure if Android has a similar app.  Apple has a couple options.

And of course in a world of many things in the cloud, if you have your work email on your phone, Apple’s native inline image recognition can sometimes work absolute wonders.  I’ll simply mark a message as unread and then later pick it up on my iPhone’s Outlook.

Best,

CV

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Beth,

Yes, I do the same thing regarding educating people, but in large corporations now, the turn-over is so high, together with the fact that a lot of IT work is out-sourced or contracted, that it is impossible to avoid this problem.  It is necessary to figure out how best to use the tools we have at our disposal, and to look for improvements in those tools when that is reasonable.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

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Hi Steve,

I don’t think you’re missing anything, these are things I’ve also tried when trying to use images in email. I’ve had some success over the years trying to educate people not to use screen shots in messages, but it’s difficult sometimes.

Best

Beth

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Subject: Re: [NFBCS] Image in email

Beth and Tracy,

I get images a lot on my work emails, too.  I would appreciate comments from others as well.  With Outlook, even when doing my work email so images are downloaded, that screen shots just are not detected by JAWS, either.  I don’t get any kind of graphic or image identifier.  If I reply to the note and then look at the original within my reply, I do find the images very clearly identified.  You might see if that helps, Tracy.  I have also have very poor luck with doing OCR on the screen within emails.  Sometimes I can print out an email and look at it with the Optacon and the image seems pretty clear, but JAWS doesn’t seem to pick it up.  

I have had success copying the image into Word and then doing OCR on the Window within word.  Saving it to a PDF probably would also work, but it just seems there should be a better way to deal with this and I suspect I am just missing something. 

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

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Hi Tracy,

Unfortunately, I get these type of email messages at work all the time. Perhaps someone put a screen shot in the middle of your message because sometimes when that happens, the message appears blank. Other times, the message will say “graphic 25” or mention a JPG or PNG file. Since you don’t have that, perhaps try the JAWS OCR to read the screen, insert space, then o, then s for screen. If there is an image there, JAWS should read it. Not sure if NVDA has a similar feature.

Hope this helps. 😊

Beth

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Subject: [NFBCS] Image in email

I received an email about a report I need to write, and apparently it contained an image or some sort, including some data I need for the specs.  But I saw no indication of any sort that there was an image, or where it might be, except someone else referring to it being there.

How can I tell if an email contains an image?  If I suspect it does, do I copy the whole email to Word, then save as PDF, then run Jaws OCR on that PDF?  Is that the right process?

I sent the email to a colleague, and she saw the data no problem, but I don’t see it at all.

Tracy

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