[NFBCS] Blast from the past

Steve Jacobson steve.jacobson at outlook.com
Wed Feb 28 19:44:43 UTC 2024


Doug,

I also used Flipper, and while it may have been before Brian's time, we had the Creator of FLIPPER on our NFBCS annual meeting agenda, but I don't remember which year.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

-----Original Message-----
From: NFBCS <nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Doug Lee via NFBCS
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2024 5:59 AM
To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Doug Lee <dgl at dlee.org>
Subject: Re: [NFBCS] Blast from the past

Charles Black wrote:
> In order to join this celebration of being "well experienced", I
> remember the Apple IIe and using the Echo 2. It was amazing for me to
> create D&D adventure games, text based. I also developed financial
> programs to achieve daily tasks  . Now, back to 2024..

To me, this was more historical preservation, and discovery for some including me - I never knew anyone else who used Flipper until Brian wrote on this thread. It was interesting to me to discover that it may have been more popular than I thought at the time.

If you want to say, did you publish any of your games? Text games are still alive and well in some communities, and I even spotted a college-age guy launching an Apple emulator a couple months or so ago that, I verified myself, ran TexTalker. I used it to show some younger folk what things were like back then, though the emulator seemed to struggle with my CapLock key and would not recognize lower-case commands. Like this thread, I suspect it was an amusement for many of us and an education for several.

Leaving Brian's message below because I referenced it.

On 2/26/24, Brian Buhrow via NFBCS <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>       hello.  Doug mentioned Flipper in his historical journey.  I, too
> started with Apple II and Street Electronics Texttalker.  I still have
> the original Apple II reference manual in braille, which came complete
> with tactile diagrams of memory maps and the complete 6502 assembly
> instruction set, listed by pneumonic.  I read the thing from cover to
> cover. (many covers for those who remember multi-volume braille
> books.)
>
>       However, it was Flipper that inspired me to write this message.  Of
> all the DOS based screen readers I used over the years, Flipper was
> the easiest to use, ran the fastest, and provided the most information
> in the most efficient fashion!  How good was it, you might ask?
> For me, it was so good, that I used it well into the 2000's, retiring
> it finally in 2007.
> Well, partially.  I now use Mike Gorse's Yasr as my daily screen reader.
> Howevr, to make it
> more compatible with my muscle memory, I rewrote all of the keymaps to
> match the old Flipper commands, as well as rewriting some of the
> punctuation nomenclature to match what Flipper used to say.  So, for
> some of us, Flipper is still alive and well!
>
> -thanks
> -Brian

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Doug Lee                 dgl at dlee.org                http://www.dlee.org/
"If you refuse to be made straight when you are green, you will not be made straight when you are dry." {African}

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