[NFBCS] FW: [NJTechDiv] multi factor authentication

Curtis Chong chong.curtis at gmail.com
Sat Jul 13 15:40:39 UTC 2024


Hello:

I think we all need more information. I reached out to Mario asking to see
the original email sent by Microsoft. Somehow, I don't think this is as
simple as simply turning on two-factor authentication. Google has been on
this path for quite a few years now, and for legacy applications, it forces
you to create what it calls an app-specific password. Verizon.net also
forces creation of an app-specific password. I am wondering of Microsoft is
doing the same with Hotmail.

Cordially,

Curtis Chong


-----Original Message-----
From: NFBCS <nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione via NFBCS
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2024 6:16 AM
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Subject: [NFBCS] FW: [NJTechDiv] multi factor authentication

A person in our New Jersey Technology committee is having trouble adding
2-factor authentication to his Hotmail account, which Microsoft says he must
do.  He is using Thunderbird for email.
His message is below.  Can anyone help? 
You can write him directly at
Mario Brusco <mrb620 at hotmail.com>
Or I can pass on messages.
Thanks.
Tracy


-----Original Message-----
From: NJTechDiv <njtechdiv-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Mario Brusco via
NJTechDiv
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2024 4:17 PM
To: njtechdiv at nfbnet.org
Cc: Mario Brusco <mrb620 at hotmail.com>
Subject: [NJTechDiv] multi factor authentication

On July 3, I received an email from Microsoft notifying me that it would be
necessary for me to update the sign-in technology of my Hotmail account
before September 16th, 2024 to maintain email access.

Since I use Thunderbird with my Hotmail account using POP:

Basically, what I need to do is to change the authentication method of the
POP and SMTP server to use OAuth2. It seems to be straight forward, but I'm
finding that it's not.

The instructions specify that the address for the POP server should be
outlook.office365.com, but immediately I receive an error that a login to
office365.com cannot be completed, and therefore I cannot continue with the
rest of the instructions. If I leave the address as POP-mail.outlook.com, I
can then choose OAuth2 for the authentication method, and continue with the
rest of the instructions.

Now, the SMTP server should be SMTP-mail.outlook.com, but there is no choice
of OAuth2 for authentication. However if I change the address to
SMTP.office365.com, I can choose OAuth2 for the authentication, but when I
press the OK button, I receive an error that the login to smtp.office365.com
cannot be completed.

The resource that started this mess is:

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/microsoft-oauth-authentication-and-thun
derbird-202#w_changes-to-authentication

I would appreciate any help as to what the server addresses and other
settings if warranted should be. I'd like to get this done as soon as
possible so retrieving and sending email from me continues after 9/16/24.

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