[NFBCS] Updating Python3 Installation

Wed Feb 19 01:01:36 UTC 2025

Thank You!  This does help and gives me some info and understanding a
few things.

I hold on doing the update.  Thanks for the reply and into!

Alan

On Tue, 2025-02-18 at 19:38 -0500, Paul York wrote:

> It's generally not recommended to try to "upgrade" Python in Ubuntu
> or any Linux distro. I don't know if it would really break anything,
> but the distro ships with a ton of python scripts that are all
> verified to work with the installed version. Some of them are
> critical, so you just don't chance it.
> 
> What you can do is simply install it using apt. I don't know the
> reason the "make" instructions are failing since I've never had a
> need to build it from source. I just install it:
> 
>   sudo apt install python3.13
> 
> This will install python3.13 alongside python3.12. To run using the
> latest version, you type:
> 
>   python3.13
> 
> To see what you have installed, you can type
> 
>   ls -l /usr/bin/python*
> 
> It will show that python3 is "linked" to python3.12 ( (I assume...I'm
> still on 22.04). Just leave it that way.
> 
> If you want to have environments where 3.13 is "default", then look
> into using virtual environments.
> https://docs.python.org/3/library/venv.html
> 
> You can run something like:
> 
>    python3.13 -m venv ~/thirteen
> 
> This creates a virtual environment in your home directory called
> "thirteen". You then "activate" it by typing:
> 
>   source ~/thirteen/bin/activate
> 
> Then for the duration of that terminal session, you'll be running the
> latest version. It's also totally isolated from the core
> installation, so you don't run the risk of fouling up your OS install
> by installing or upgrading a package that breaks some odd dependency.
> 
> Hope this helps. No answer for you on the screen reader as I too
> still retain a small amount of vision.
> 
> On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 7:03 PM Alan K. Martinez via NFBCS
> <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> > Hello everyone,
> > 
> > If this is not the appropriate place to ask for this type of help
> > please let me know and disregard my message... but I need some
> > help...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I had to re-image my desktop setup from the ground up.
> > 
> > I just finished a fresh installation of Ubuntu 24.04 LTS.  I feel
> > I'm
> > still a little new to Linux but after the last 2 years of making it
> > my
> > daily driver I learned a lot so I'm more comfortable doing things. 
> > I
> > just need to know where to go to get things done.  Sometimes doing
> > Google searches gets a little complicated especially when a
> > situation
> > doesn't quite match the search results and suggestions.
> > 
> > Right now the currently installed version of Python is 3.12.3.
> > 
> > I wanted to update it to the most current available on python.org
> > which
> > is 3.13.3.  I understand that it's just an x.01.x revission
> > difference
> > but my pseudo self diagnosed OCD wants it to be as current as
> > possible
> > whenever I can update.  Please don't bash me for this...
> > 
> > I downloaded the update .tar and started the installation.  I
> > managed
> > to install 'make' and 'gcc' updates.
> > 
> > AFter I run ./conigure and make from the command line it all seems
> > to
> > go well until the end where I get the following information:
> > 
> > 
> > The necessary bits to build these optional modules were not found:
> > _bz2                      _ctypes                   _ctypes_test   
> >  
> > _curses                   _curses_panel             _dbm           
> >  
> > _gdbm                     _hashlib                  _lzma         
> >   
> > _ssl                      _tkinter                  _uuid         
> >   
> > readline                  zlib                                     
> >  
> > To find the necessary bits, look in configure.ac and config.log.
> > 
> > Could not build the ssl module!
> > Python requires a OpenSSL 1.1.1 or newer
> > 
> > Checked 112 modules (33 built-in, 63 shared, 1 n/a on linux-x86_64,
> > 1
> > disabled, 14 missing, 0 failed on import)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > The information that concerns me is the Python requires a OpenSSL
> > 1.1.1
> > or newer.  When I checked I HAVE a newer version with 3.0.13 from
> > Jan
> > 2024.
> > 
> > Why does it not recognize OpenSSL as a newer version? 
> > 
> > Also the part about the necessary bits to build, will it find them
> > after I get the OpenSSL resolved?  If not, can someone suggest how
> > to
> > get them installed?
> > 
> > I know this is Linux and not everyone is knowledgeable or
> > comfortable
> > and this might be more of a tech support issue with Linux first but
> > I
> > thought I'd come here first since this is for Python and it might
> > help
> > others out in the future.
> > 
> > Any help would be appreciated.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Alan
> > 
> > 
> > P.S.  On a separate subject because I'm curious.
> > I still have some useable vision and I use it as much as possible
> > so I
> > don't have or uses a screen reader on my desktop.  In the world of
> > the
> > internet and texting all caps denotes an emphasized emotion or
> > yelling.
> > How does that get translated with screen readers or to people with
> > no
> > vision at all?  Just curious...
> > 
> > 
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