<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">My echolocation skills are good enough that my husband has seen me duck to avoid a leaf. A single leaf. Blind people have real problems; I wish you would focus your skill and intelligence on those.<br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On May 4, 2023, at 1:23 AM, Sabra Ewing via NFBCS <nfbcs@nfbnet.org> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><meta charset="UTF-8"><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;">I'm not sure if you are blind. I did fill out the form. You ask if these things are a contending factor when you travel, meaning are they there when you travel.</span><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><br></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">You don't ask if blind people actually have trouble with them. the complicatedlanguage makes sure that blind people with intellectual disabilities can't take the survey.</div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><br></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">I don't really like this idea but I'm not sure what other blind people think. I would like something to help with veering similar to the OKO app, but specifically focused on veering. maybe it could train you how to walk or tell you if your arc is getting lopsided.</div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><br></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">I think you probably are not blind because I think a blind person would know that this is not what the majority of blind people want. I don't mean offense, but it is also not original because many sighted person thinks it would be so innovative to make an object avoiding app for blind people.</div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><br></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">A cane is designed to hit obstacles and a dog already goes around obstacles. Blind people like me have echolocation. Someone like me who already can't focus on orientation and mobility at the same time will not be able to focus on an app telling me every obstacle it sees. it will be easier to just hit obstacles with a cane and go around them.</div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><br><div dir="ltr">Sabra Ewing</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On May 3, 2023, at 10:41 AM, Derrick Day via NFBCS <nfbcs@nfbnet.org> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div class="elementToProof" style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span class="ContentPasted0" style="font-size: 12pt;">Hello, my name is Derrick Day. I have created an application that uses sensors on the back of an iPhone to map your environment while traveling and notify you about obstacles before your cane can. It also is able to detect objects that are undetectable by a cane, such as tree branches and overgrown shrubs. <o:p class="ContentPasted0"> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span class="ContentPasted0" style="font-size: 12pt;">Coincidentally, I am in a business class at my high school, and we are assembling a business plan. I decided to do all of my business class assignments on this real project I already am investing time into, so I made a google form to get feedback. I would greatly appreciate it if you could provide feedback for two reasons. For one, I am creating a computer vision model to recognize and classify the objects travelers encounter. Because of this, feedback is helpful to ensure the model is accurate and can detect the objects seen by its users. Secondly, I need at least 30 responses for my class assignment, although that comes secondary. I am genuinely interested in making this app into something useful, so I would love to gather information that can allow me to make it the best product possible. <o:p class="ContentPasted0"> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span class="ContentPasted0" style="font-size: 12pt;">Please also send this form to anyone who you know that may be able to contribute information. <o:p class="ContentPasted0"> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span class="ContentPasted0" style="font-size: 12pt; border: 1pt windowtext; padding: 0in;">Thank you</span><span class="ContentPasted0" style="font-size: 12pt;"> all very much in advance for your insight and assistance and I look forward to seeing your responses! <o:p class="ContentPasted0"> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span class="ContentPasted0" style="font-size: 12pt;">link to form: <o:p class="ContentPasted0"> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><a href="https://bit.ly/4123HHS" class="ContentPasted0"><span style="border: 1pt windowtext; padding: 0in; color: blue;">https://bit.ly/4123HHS</span></a></span><span class="ContentPasted0" style="font-size: 13pt; font-family: controlIcons, serif;"></span><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><o:p class="ContentPasted0"> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><o:p class="ContentPasted0"> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background: white;"><span class="ContentPasted0" style="font-size: 12pt;">Thanks so much,<o:p class="ContentPasted0"> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background: white;"><span class="ContentPasted0" style="font-size: 12pt;">Derrick C Day, student of Westminster High School<o:p class="ContentPasted0"> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background: white;"><span class="ContentPasted0" style="font-size: 12pt;">I have a website. 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