<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">I too did something similar because of the excessive lag time for JAWS/Fusion to begin speaking on the Windows 10 log-on screen.<div>Since moving on to a new laptop running Windows 11, I no longer experience this issue, and have resumed using JAWS/Fusion at log-on, and am no longer experiencing any noticeable lag time. <br><div>
<div><br>- Brad -<br><br><br></div>
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<div><br><div>On Jun 2, 2023, at 08:30, Christopher Chaltain via NFBCS <nfbcs@nfbnet.org> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><meta charset="UTF-8"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">I changed up how my computer starts a few years ago. I switched to having Narrator come up on the log in screen, just as Curtis describes below. I did this because I thought Narrator started more quickly, and I wanted my computer to start talking to me as soon as possible. Once I log in, Narrator stops running and JAWS starts up.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Consolas; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);">--<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Consolas; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);">Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Consolas; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);">Chaltain at Outlook, USA</span><span><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div style="border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(225, 225, 225) currentcolor currentcolor; border-image: none; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><b><span>From:</span></b><span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>NFBCS <<a href="mailto:nfbcs-bounces@nfbnet.org" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;">nfbcs-bounces@nfbnet.org</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Curtis Chong via NFBCS<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, June 1, 2023 8:12 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>'NFB in Computer Science Mailing List' <<a href="mailto:nfbcs@nfbnet.org" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;">nfbcs@nfbnet.org</a>><br><b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Curtis Chong <<a href="mailto:chong.curtis@gmail.com" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;">chong.curtis@gmail.com</a>>;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:carcione@access.net" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;">carcione@access.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [NFBCS] Jaws and Outlook<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Arial Black", sans-serif;">Hi Tracy:<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Arial Black", sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Arial Black", sans-serif;">Sometimes, when my Outlook misbehaves, I find that recycling JAWS with the JAWS key plus space followed by F4 will fix the misbehavior problem.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Arial Black", sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Arial Black", sans-serif;">Most everyone has JAWS start up automatically. I have chosen not to do this, favoring instead to use Narrator during Windows login and placing a shortcut to JAWS in my shell:startup folder. Thus, JAWS starts up a little later after logging in, giving me a somewhat cleaner system. I got this suggestion from José in Vispero Tech Support.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Arial Black", sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Arial Black", sans-serif;">Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Arial Black", sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Arial Black", sans-serif;">Curtis Chong<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Arial Black", sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Arial Black", sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div><div style="border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(225, 225, 225) currentcolor currentcolor; border-image: none; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><b><span>From:</span></b><span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>NFBCS <<a href="mailto:nfbcs-bounces@nfbnet.org" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;">nfbcs-bounces@nfbnet.org</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Tracy Carcione via NFBCS<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, June 01, 2023 1:09 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>'NFB in Computer Science Mailing List' <<a href="mailto:nfbcs@nfbnet.org" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;">nfbcs@nfbnet.org</a>><br><b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:carcione@access.net" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;">carcione@access.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [NFBCS] Jaws and Outlook<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Hi Curtis.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">No, I’m not subscribed to MS365, nor do I want to be, really.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">It’s never worked since I installed Outlook, except in certain circumstances which I can’t replicate and don’t understand. I’ve had a Jaws update since, but nothing changed.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">It is annoying, because I have to manually read each thing as I arrow through, which takes a lot more time and repetitive keystrokes.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Tracy<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div style="border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(225, 225, 225) currentcolor currentcolor; border-image: none; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><b><span>From:</span></b><span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>NFBCS <<a href="mailto:nfbcs-bounces@nfbnet.org" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;">nfbcs-bounces@nfbnet.org</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Curtis Chong via NFBCS<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, June 1, 2023 11:16 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>'NFB in Computer Science Mailing List' <<a href="mailto:nfbcs@nfbnet.org" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;">nfbcs@nfbnet.org</a>><br><b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Curtis Chong <<a href="mailto:chong.curtis@gmail.com" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;">chong.curtis@gmail.com</a>>;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:carcione@access.net" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;">carcione@access.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [NFBCS] Jaws and Outlook<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Arial Black", sans-serif;">Hello Tracy:<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Arial Black", sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Arial Black", sans-serif;">When, exactly, did this problem start? Was it after an Office update or a JAWS update?<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Arial Black", sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Arial Black", sans-serif;">When you say you are running Outlook 2019, I assume you are not on the Microsoft 365 subscription. Is this accurate?<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Arial Black", sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Arial Black", sans-serif;">I feel your pain. Not being able to hear a message summary while arrowing up or down through the list of messages is frustrating.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Arial Black", sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Arial Black", sans-serif;">Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Arial Black", sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Arial Black", sans-serif;">Curtis Chong<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Arial Black", sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Arial Black", sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div><div style="border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(225, 225, 225) currentcolor currentcolor; border-image: none; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><b><span>From:</span></b><span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>NFBCS <<a href="mailto:nfbcs-bounces@nfbnet.org" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;">nfbcs-bounces@nfbnet.org</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Tracy Carcione via NFBCS<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, June 01, 2023 6:20 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>'NFB in Computer Science Mailing List' <<a href="mailto:nfbcs@nfbnet.org" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;">nfbcs@nfbnet.org</a>><br><b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:carcione@access.net" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;">carcione@access.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[NFBCS] Jaws and Outlook<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Jaws does not automatically read message titles when I arrow through my Outlook inbox most of the time. I am running the latest Jaws and Outlook 2019.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">I have tried maximizing the window, but that doesn’t help.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">The only times it does read when I arrow is after I’ve had a Teamviewer session open to have AIRA help me with some web page.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">However, I tried starting Teamviewer today, without anyone connecting to it, and that didn’t have the same effect.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">I looked in Startup, and I only see programs I expect there.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Anyone have any ideas? I can call FS, but I don’t know if they’ll have a solution.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Tracy<o:p></o:p></div></div><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;">_______________________________________________</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;">NFBCS mailing list</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><a href="mailto:NFBCS@nfbnet.org" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">NFBCS@nfbnet.org</a><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><a href="http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfbcs_nfbnet.org" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfbcs_nfbnet.org</a><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;">To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NFBCS:</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><a href="http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfbcs_nfbnet.org/wbsjr%40swbell.net" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfbcs_nfbnet.org/wbsjr%40swbell.net</a></div></div><br></div></body></html>