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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#467886" vlink="#96607D" style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'>I encountered this situation today as well.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'>My workaround was using speech history and for some reason it was flaky as well, but this worked as follows:<o:p></o:p></span></p><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=1><li class=MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst style='margin-left:0in;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'>Move cursor above the line with text to copy line.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:0in;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'>Clear speech history (insert + space, h + shift)<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:0in;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'>Move cursor down slowly past lines you want to copy.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:0in;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'>Now do copy speech history (insert+spacebar, h+ctrl)<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraphCxSpLast style='margin-left:0in;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'>Now paste in notepad and clean up.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'>You do miss the formatting, but I did not need it.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'>Kept missing the link and other bold text with normal webpage copy.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'>Lewis Wood<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'><a href="mailto:lewislwood@gmail.com">lewislwood@gmail.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none'> NFBCS <nfbcs-bounces@nfbnet.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Curtis Chong via NFBCS<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 14, 2025 4:21 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'NFB in Computer Science Mailing List' <nfbcs@nfbnet.org><br><b>Cc:</b> Curtis Chong <chong.curtis@gmail.com><br><b>Subject:</b> [NFBCS] A Bug Regarding Copying Information From Web Pages and JAWS History<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Greetings All:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>There has been considerable discussion of late on some mailing lists about what does and doesn't work when using a screen reader to copy information off of individual web pages. This discussion seems to have been kicked off by a "bug" introduced in the Chromium-based browsers Google Chrome and Microsoft Edge. The bug also appears to manifest when attempting to copy text from the JAWS Speech History to the Clipboard. Essentially, copying to the Clipboard works sometimes but not always under certain circumstances.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>The quickest (but perhaps not ideal) way to fix this is to do the following.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=1><li class=MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst style='margin-left:0in;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'>Focus JAWS either in the Speech History or a web page in whatever Chromium-based browser you are using.<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:0in;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'>Press the JAWSKEY with the letter v to enter JAWS Quick Settings.<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:0in;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'>Type the word "copy" without the quotes and start pressing the Down Arrow key.<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:0in;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'>If you hear JAWS say something like, " Full content using onscreen highlight," press Space until you hear JAWS say something like, " Select and Copy From Virtual Cursor."<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraphCxSpLast style='margin-left:0in;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'>Tab to and activate the OK button.<o:p></o:p></li></ol><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>This option is not ideal because text is the only thing that gets copied to the Clipboard. If (especially for web pages) you are interested in actual links and other formatting to be copied, this option is not ideal.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>The word is that the folks at Freedom Scientific are working on a fix for this issue, but as of this writing, the fix has not been released.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Cordially,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Curtis Chong<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>