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<p class="MsoNormal">Good work Chris. This is clearly the display I saw. I guess I was wrong on the number of braille lines though. I remembered 25 but your info shows that there were only 20 (60 pins).<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">By the way, my wife Carolyn also remembers seeing it, not only in Stuttgart but some time later being displayed at the Sight City show in Frankfurt. Neither of us has pinned down a date though.
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<p class="MsoNormal">I know that a Canadian researcher (who I did not know) purchased one of these, and it may have been the only one that Metec was paid for. I\u2019m pretty sure that the University of Stuttgart lab collaborated with Metec and almost certainly
the one I saw was for beta testing. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">My final memory is that the display was covered with some kind of material that made reading it pretty clumsy but was essential to prevent anything from getting into the display and causing pins to get stuck. Of course it was only partly
successful, and I was told that it was not often that all pins were working at the same time!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Wonder why it didn\u2019t sell?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I\u2019ll be attending the ICCHP conference next month and know several people will be there who also remember this device. My curiosity is peaked now, so I\u2019ll try to pin down some other people\u2019s memories.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">John<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Chris Nestrud <ccn@chrisnestrud.com>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 25, 2026 5:41 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'NFB in Computer Science Mailing List' <nfbcs@nfbnet.org><br>
<b>Cc:</b> John Gardner <john.gardner@viewplus.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [NFBCS] Access On: The BrailleNote Evolve from HumanWare<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Hi John,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I gave this task to an LLM-based research agent that I\u2019ve been working on, and here\u2019s the result. Let me know if this is in line with your recollection.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<h1>1. Executive Summary<o:p></o:p></h1>
<p class="MsoNormal">John's recollection of the Metec "braille screen" is confirmed as accurate. The device \u2014 officially named TAWIS (Taktile Windows) \u2014 was a real, pioneering full-page refreshable braille display developed by Friedrich Lüthi at Metec AG in
Stuttgart, Germany. It used 7,200 electro-mechanically actuated pins in a 120×60 matrix, could display both braille text and tactile graphics, was physically massive, and only 2\u20133 units were ever produced.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Eleven sources were identified and analyzed, ranging from an eyewitness email and a YouTube video to a German government research report (BMBF grant 16SV1667/1668) archived at the TIB \u2014 German National Library of Science and Technology.
The BrailleDis report (2008) confirms continued TAWIS software development and documents a modular 10-dot braille module with piezo actuators, capacitive touch sensors, and MID (Molded Interconnected Device) technology. [1]\u2013[11]<o:p></o:p></p>
<h1>2. The Company: Metec AG<o:p></o:p></h1>
<p class="MsoNormal">Metec Ingenieur GmbH was founded in 1974 in Stuttgart, Germany by Mr. Schaefer, commercializing the first small electromagnetic braille cell invented at the University of Stuttgart's Institute of Design and Production in Precision Engineering.
The company transitioned to piezo actuator technology in 1987 and became Metec Ingenieur AG in 1998. It is still active at Hasenbergstraße 31 in Stuttgart, employs ~20 people, and holds ~55% of the global market share for braille actuator cells. [2][5][10]<o:p></o:p></p>
<h2>Company Milestones<o:p></o:p></h2>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">1974</span><o:p></o:p></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Founded in Stuttgart; technology from Stuttgart University [2][5]</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>1975<o:p></o:p></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">First pocket calculators with braille readout [2][5]<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">1982</span><o:p></o:p></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">First electronic single-line braille displays [2]</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>1987<o:p></o:p></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Piezo actuator technology introduced [2]<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">1998</span><o:p></o:p></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Converted to Metec Ingenieur AG [2]</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<h1>3. The Device: TAWIS<o:p></o:p></h1>
<p class="MsoNormal">The TAWIS (Taktile Windows) was developed by Friedrich Lüthi at Metec AG based on a pin matrix originally designed in 1985. [3][8]<o:p></o:p></p>
<h2>Technical Specifications<o:p></o:p></h2>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">120 pins wide × 60 pins tall = 7,200 pins [3][4][9]</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">2.5 mm (standard braille pitch) [3]<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Electro-magnetic (individual solenoid pins) [4]</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Braille cells (6-dot)<o:p></o:p></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">~60 cells wide × 20 rows = 1,200 cells [4]<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Braille text + tactile graphics simultaneously [3]</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">"Massive" \u2014 desktop/lab form factor [1]<o:p></o:p></p>
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<h2>Entity Relationship Graph<o:p></o:p></h2>
<p class="MsoNormal">The diagram below visualizes 11 entities and their documented relationships. The central subject is Metec AG, the company that designed and built the TAWIS.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><img width="574" height="289" style="width:5.975in;height:3.0083in" id="Picture_x0020_2" src="cid:image001.png@01DD04D9.8BFF1F70"><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Entity Graph: Metec AG (center) developed the TAWIS; Friedrich Lüthi was lead developer; BMBF funded the BrailleDis project; Angaris GmbH was terminated as subcontractor. John (NFBCS poster) is the sole known eyewitness. [1]\u2013[11]<o:p></o:p></p>
<h1>4. The BrailleDis Project (2004\u20132008)<o:p></o:p></h1>
<p class="MsoNormal">A BMBF (German Federal Ministry of Education and Research) funded project, BrailleDis (grants 16SV1667 / 16SV1668), ran from 2004\u20132008 as a joint venture between Metec Ingenieur AG and Blista-Brailletec gGmbH, Marburg. Its final report
(14 pages) was discovered at the TIB \u2014 German National Library of Science and Technology. [11]<o:p></o:p></p>
<h2>Key Revelations<o:p></o:p></h2>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>TAWIS software continued: </b>Section 2.1.7 of the report confirms the TAWIS (Taktile Windows) software was further developed and adapted to contemporary Windows versions. It could display icons, program windows, contours, and line graphics
with direct touch input. [9][11]<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Modular 10-dot braille module: </b>A 5×12.5 mm (2×5 dot) module using piezo bending actuators with a wedge gear, MID (Molded Interconnected Device) housing, integrated capacitive touch sensors, and a 200V high-voltage driver chip from
IMS Stuttgart. [8][11]<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Planned demonstrator: </b>48 modules = 32×15 = 480 dots; tactile area 37.5×120 mm. [11]<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Subcontractor failure: </b>Angaris GmbH (data bus specialist) was terminated and taken to court. Partial payments recovered. Metec hired an in-house developer. [10][11]<o:p></o:p></p>
<h2>BrailleDis Module Specifications<o:p></o:p></h2>
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<h1>5. Timeline<o:p></o:p></h1>
<p class="MsoNormal">The timeline below shows 11 key events from the founding of Metec in 1974 through the opening of this investigation in June 2026.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<h2>Timeline (tabular)<o:p></o:p></h2>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">1974</span><o:p></o:p></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Metec Ingenieur GmbH founded [2][5]</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>1975<o:p></o:p></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">First braille pocket calculators [2][5]<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">1982</span><o:p></o:p></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">TAWIS pin matrix designed (120 × 60 pins) [3][8]<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">1987</span><o:p></o:p></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>~1990<o:p></o:p></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">1998</span><o:p></o:p></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Metec becomes an AG [2]</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>2004<o:p></o:p></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">BrailleDis BMBF-funded project launches [11]<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">2005</span><o:p></o:p></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>2008-02-26<o:p></o:p></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">BrailleDis final report submitted [11]<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">2008-04-12</span><o:p></o:p></b></p>
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<h1>6. Resolved Contradictions<o:p></o:p></h1>
<h2>C1: Display Dimensions (80×25 vs. 120×60)<o:p></o:p></h2>
<p class="MsoNormal">John recalls 80 braille characters × 25 rows (12,000 pins). The documented spec is 120 × 60 = 7,200 pins (~60 cells × 20 rows). Likely explanations: (a) 80×25 is a standard terminal size (VT100) \u2014 John may have associated the format after
30+ years; (b) the device may have scrolled; (c) different pin-to-cell mapping. Resolution: partial \u2014 device existence confirmed; 120×60 pins is the verified spec. [1][3][4]<o:p></o:p></p>
<h2>C2: "Braille Screen" Terminology<o:p></o:p></h2>
<p class="MsoNormal">John's "braille screen" vs. Metec's "Braille lines"/"graphic displays"/"pin-matrix device." Resolution: terminology evolution in the early 1990s \u2014 not a real contradiction. [1][3]<o:p></o:p></p>
<h2>C3: Electromagnetic vs. Piezo<o:p></o:p></h2>
<p class="MsoNormal">Metec introduced piezo in 1987; TAWIS used electromagnetic pins. Resolution: different product lines used different technologies. The TAWIS was designed independently of the piezo transition and retained the older electromagnetic approach.
[2][4][6]<o:p></o:p></p>
<h1>7. Open Leads<o:p></o:p></h1>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">YouTube TAWIS video analysis</span><o:p></o:p></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Inquiry to <a href="mailto:contact@metec-ag.de">contact@metec-ag.de</a> for records<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">Univ. Stuttgart archives</span><o:p></o:p></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Search library & repository for Metec pubs</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Retrieve full text (behind Cloudflare)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">Patents by Lüthi / Metec</span><o:p></o:p></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Search EU/US patent databases</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">4 figures show module design; text extracted</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<h1>8. Source Reference List<o:p></o:p></h1>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">[1] NFBCS Mailing List Post (2026-06-25)</span><o:p></o:p></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Eyewitness account by "John". 80×25 braille, ~2-3 units, Stuttgart Univ. lab.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>[2] Metec AG Company History Page<o:p></o:p></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">metec-ag.de \u2014 Official timeline: founded 1974, calculators 1975, piezo 1987.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">[3] HyperBraille Project Page (Wayback)</span><o:p></o:p></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Webpage</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">TAWIS name confirmed, 1985 pin matrix, Lüthi as developer.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>[4] YouTube: "Tawis on pin-matrix device"<o:p></o:p></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Video<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">youtube.com/watch?v=z0fktwCPjjc \u2014 120×60 electro-magnetic pins.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">[5] BioRegio STERN Database</span><o:p></o:p></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Database</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">bioregio-stern.de \u2014 Founded 1974, braille calculators 1975.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">High</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>[6] ScienceDirect Article (2008)<o:p></o:p></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Academic<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Schaefer started Metec, piezo Braille display in late-1980s.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Medium<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">[7] NFB Braille Monitor (Jan 2000)</span><o:p></o:p></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Publication</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">nfb.org \u2014 Schaefer and Metec history, early mechanical displays.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">High</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>[8] stiftung-barrierefrei-kommunizieren.de<o:p></o:p></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Database<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">German: "1985 erste Phase der Stiftplatte als TAWIS entwickelt."<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">[9] ResearchGate BrailleDis 9000 Figure</span><o:p></o:p></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Academic</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">researchgate.net \u2014 "120 times 60 piezo actuated pins."</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Medium</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>[10] ItactI Consortium Profile<o:p></o:p></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Webpage<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">smarttec.co.uk \u2014 Metec ~55% global braille actuator market share.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Medium<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">[11] BrailleDis BMBF Final Report (2008)</span><o:p></o:p></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Government</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">edocs.tib.eu \u2014 14 pages, BMBF-funded, modular braille module, TAWIS SW.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">High</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<h1>9. Conclusion<o:p></o:p></h1>
<p class="MsoNormal">John's memory of the Metec "braille screen" is confirmed as accurate. The device \u2014 officially the TAWIS (Taktile Windows) \u2014 was a real, pioneering full-page refreshable braille display built by Metec AG in Stuttgart. It used 7,200 electro-mechanically
actuated pins in a 120×60 matrix, could display braille text and tactile graphics, was massive in size, and only 2\u20133 units were ever produced.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The primary surviving documentation is a YouTube video, a Wayback Machine archive of the HyperBraille project page, a single German assistive technology database entry, and a BMBF project final report from the German National Library of
Science and Technology. The device is effectively invisible to web search without knowing the internal project name: "TAWIS."<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>John Gardner via NFBCS<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NFBCS] Access On: The BrailleNote Evolve from HumanWare<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The company Metec of Stuttgart, Germany, did manufacture a \u201cbraille screen\u201d, 80 braille characters wide x 25 6-dot braille characters high. I saw one in Stuttgart in a University of Stuttgart lab, and it was indeed massive. This was some
time in the early 1990\u2019s. Metec sold only two or three of these, but I do not remember the price. I did a quick Google search and could find no mention of this device, but I am sure I did not dream it.
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<p class="MsoNormal">John<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NFBCS] Access On: The BrailleNote Evolve from HumanWare<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">There is not currently a 25 line by 40 cell display on the market. It would be huge, and expensive, and unless some very inexpensive technology is developed, we will probably never see one!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dave<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> NFBCS <<a href="mailto:nfbcs-bounces@nfbnet.org">nfbcs-bounces@nfbnet.org</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Hello David and everyone,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">It\u2019s designed for a very specific purpose displaying graphics. Even the Monarch isn\u2019t something you would want to carry around wherever you go. We had the chance to see the
Monarch last April. The lack of 25 lines of Braille with 40 cells per line makes it a non-starter with us.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Peter Donahue<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I do not remember, off the top of my head how many lines it will display, but it certainly isn\u2019t sixty. That would be massive, several feet tall, at least.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dave<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Good evening everyone,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">The Graphiti has 60 lines and a massive fundraising challenge for anyone wanting to buy one free and clear.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Peter Donahue<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NFBCS] Access On: The BrailleNote Evolve from HumanWare<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I think the biggest Braille display you can buy is the Canute, which has 9 lines of 40 cells (360 cells total). The Monarch has 10 lines of 32 cells (320 cells). The Monarch is more expensive, but refreshes much faster and also does tactile
graphics which the Canute does not.<o:p></o:p></p>
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so you can expect to send it to Orbit for repairs frequently. It works okay for displaying graphics but if you want a Braille display it's a waste of money.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Nothing but a 40-cell Braille display with at least 25 lines of Braille will do for us. This alone makes the Braille Note Evolve a non-starter for consideration. It\u2019s a 40-cell
line with at least 25 lines of Braille or we go elseware. The Graphiti from Orbit Research meets these criteria and more. Now to raise the funds to buy one without involving rehab.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<<a href="mailto:nfbcs-bounces@nfbnet.org">nfbcs-bounces@nfbnet.org</a>><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Elijah Massey via NFBCS<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, June 23, 2026 3:48 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:snfbcs@nfbnet.org">snfbcs@nfbnet.org</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Elijah Massey <<a href="mailto:emassey0135@gmail.com">emassey0135@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [NFBCS] FW: Access On: The BrailleNote Evolve from HumanWare</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I listened to the review, and I still think the Evolve is a good device even with the trade-offs. Maybe the best thing to say about it is what Jonathan Mosen said, that the Evolve doesn't really fit the BrailleNote brand. KeySoft on the
Evolve is a collection of things trying to make Windows more efficient to use rather than a standalone application suite, and I agree that this means that there are some groups of users, like young children or people new to computers, that this makes the Evolve
less good for.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">However, if I got the Evolve, I wouldn't get it for KeySoft, because I can just install JAWS and Leasey and get the virtual ribbons in Office, a main menu for launching applications, and everything else that KeySoft has and far more, such
as a simple word processor, notes manager, and media center designed to be efficient to use by the blind.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I would get it because it combines a full Windows computer and a Braille display into a small form factor, with a Perkins keyboard instead of QWERTY allowing it to be smaller, and it has things like the modifier keys and the Braille IME
that make Windows easier to use and more seamless with Braille input. For things like small class desks, or if you want a Windows computer with Braille that you can quickly set up and easily carry around, or if you want to use it on a bus or plane, I think
it is much more convenient than a Windows laptop plus a Braille display, especially since on laptops the trackpad in between makes it less efficient to switch between typing on the QWERTY keyboard and reading from the Braille display. Performing Windows and
screen reader commands are also the main thing preventing me from just using the Perkins keyboard alone to control Windows.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Its true that the battery life is a big disadvantage though. I wonder if anything can be done to make that longer or what's causing that. The Braille editor not having a find feature is definitely a serious and strange omission, especially
since it should be easy to add. I'm not that bothered about there being no Braille terminal yet though, because they plan to add it soon after release. I am not that bothered by the processor either, although I do wish it was a newer generation and could be
upgraded. The lack of upgradability is probably the main concern, but I think the Intel Ultra 5 125U will perform most tasks I would want to do on it very responsively. I did notice the long response times when launching the main menu and sometimes other KeySoft
applications, but honestly I doubt that this is because of the processor. I think its probably because these applications were either poorly designed or not optimized well. This processor has very similar Geekbench scores to a MacBook Neo, and many people
have reported that the MacBook Neo is very responsive and can do almost everything people want to do on it very well. I have a MacBook Neo myself, and while I wouldn't use it for heavy tasks like compilation or gaming inside a virtual machine or things like
that, I have been able to do all the productivity tasks I've tried with high responsiveness, like editing documents, browsing the web, email, etc. I can even run a Windows VM and multi-task between Windows and Mac programs and everything still runs well, and
when it doesn't, I think the main issue is RAM, not CPU, and the Evolve has 32 GB of RAM. The BT Speak and BT Braille also do not have a Braille terminal, although they should be getting one soon as well, and its a feature that makes a Braille device like
this significantly more useful but its not its main purpose or the main thing I would get it for.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I agree the BT Braille is a very good device though. I have one and I really like both the Blazie mode programs like the editor and the ability to use Linux desktop programs and the Linux terminal. But if I get the Evolve I would use them
both for different things, because they're good at different things. For example, while the BT Braille has Libre Office, its not very good for reviewing PowerPoint presentations or editing complex documents with tables and math and things like that, but the
BT Braille is much better for editing text or Braille documents very efficiently and quickly, with no lag or issues to work around like I sometimes encounter in Microsoft Office. What they can do overlap a lot but I think there's still a lot that each does
the best.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">But most of all I'm glad that we're finally getting notetakers that run full mainstream operating systems and don't restrict the apps you can install. At least we don't have to choose between either a laptop plus a Braille display, or something
much more portable and convenient but that you can't customize or install anything on. And at least we finally have an alternative to Android for this, hopefully meaning it won't stop getting updates and get really slow and pretty much useless like my BrailleNote
Touch did. And we have two, the BT Braille for Linux, and the BrailleNote Evolve for Windows, each with their own advantages. The BrailleSense 7 might be good to try out too because it runs a very modern version of Android and has the longest battery life
out of all three, so I'm going to try it out during convention and see what I think of it. But I already know that there are a lot of things I couldn't do on it that I could do with the BT Braille or BrailleNote Evolve.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">On Jun 23, 2026, at 14:50, dan TeVelde via NFBCS <<a href="mailto:nfbcs@nfbnet.org">nfbcs@nfbnet.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">This sounds harsh but I was underwhelmed by this product. It\u2019s expensive and yet one more example of adding a proprietary interface onto a device which is supposed to be what a vendor calls a mainstream device.
I couldn\u2019t believe that the Braille editor doesn\u2019t have a find command. I\u2019m more excited about the BT Braille. It\u2019s cheaper. I know there is a learning curve with Linux but the device has the familiar Blazie interface which I have missed since the demise of
the Braille Lite.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Orozco <<a href="mailto:jsorozco@gmail.com">jsorozco@gmail.com</a>><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, June 22, 2026 12:07 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>NFB in Computer Science Mailing List <<a href="mailto:nfbcs@nfbnet.org">nfbcs@nfbnet.org</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:dan.tevelde@comcast.net">dan.tevelde@comcast.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [NFBCS] FW: Access On: The BrailleNote Evolve from HumanWare</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:8.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">I was finally able to listen to Jonathan\u2019s review in its entirety. Sadly, or fortunately, it discouraged me from making the purchase.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:8.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">I\u2019m glad Jonathan did the math for us. Too often I have felt as though consumer groups have given companies a pass because the market is too small, the research
and development is too expensive, and so on. Yet, if the company\u2019s market really is the educational sector, this should be fleshed out in their marketing. The $6,000 plus price tag feels a little startling even for the educational sector, but I understand
this is the way of the world.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:8.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">I thought I might wait for the QWERTY model. Yet, changing the keyboard doesn\u2019t seem like it will have a profound change on the core experience.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:8.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">I\u2019m a little bummed. I really was hoping to approach the product as an all-in-one experience. I\u2019ll still check it out on the exhibit floor, and compliments to
Humanware for taking a substantial run at blending the notetaker with a mainstream concept. I hope it is the beginning of a new trend.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:8.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">And thanks to Jonathan for the thorough and honest assessment. It\u2019s good to know we have someone at the helm who can recognize the wonderful things that come
of our partnership with the corporate sector but still be able to step back and offer an unbiased assessment. This ultimately benefits the end customer who is not relying on government funds to make the investment. At north of 6K, it is indeed a steep investment.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:8.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Very appreciative,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I thought your review was comprehensive and you raised some issues I hadn\u2019t thought of. I won\u2019t be getting this device. You noted several things which resonated with me. I have a QBraille and agree with you
that it was an innovative device. I stopped using it when I ran into issues with windows 11 and needed a Mantis to do programming. My main concern with the QBraille was its unreliable Bluetooth connections. I think Selvas technical support has suffered recently.
In one of their webinars I asked them if they were going to keep the QBraille updated and they were dismissive even when I pointed out that its hybrid interface was worth keeping. I explained how I liked to use it and not need to depend on a screenreader.
I found the presence of Windows modifier keys helpful except when I needed to execute complicated JAWS and NVDA commands. I tried using the Windows sticky keys feature but that didn\u2019t work. I think these shortcomings could have been addressed in a new product.
Instead, Selvas introduced a Braille display with a stupid name and was a basic copy of the Brailliant with some other features.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">When my Braille Sense U2 Mini became obsolete and stopped working I bought a Brailliant 20. I didn\u2019t want a full-fledged notetaker and thought that the Humanware hybrid approach would be sufficient for my
needs. Initially I was very satisfied with the device and found connecting it to iOS devices to be easy. I was disappointed with the Victor Reader app and the fact that there are file size limitations even for BRF files. The latest Humanware software update
has made things worse. People complained about an issue where in the Victor Reader app where the process of selecting recently read books was slow. Humanware addressed that issue in one of their software updates but then the issue resurfaced with last year\u2019s
latest update. I think the processor and amount of RAM might not be sufficient. The user can\u2019t open multiple files in the same application which I would think would be an important requirement for a device. I was astounded to learn that the BrailleNote Evolve
doesn\u2019t have a find function for BRF files. How could Humanware have left such an important feature out of the initial implementation. It boggles my mind.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I think we are at a dead end with most notetakers. It seems like Humanware and Sellvas are doing more of the same things with newer generations of hardware and software. I heard a demonstration of the Braille
Sense 7 and wasn\u2019t impressed. The only new product which excites me is the BT Braille. I think the Blazie family is listening closely to customers and offering features which have never been available before. Yes, the Linux environment is new to some people
but the amount of available hard drive storage is impressive. I will probably buy the BT Braille once the product matures a bit. the Blazie family has worked closely with the National Federation of the Blind and I think the organization deserves a lot of credit
for getting the initial notetaker concept off the ground. Jonathan\u2019s product reviews are more useful than just attending a webinar where company representatives tell you about their products. All too often, company representatives tell people what they want
them to hear.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I know my e-mail is harsh but I think in this day and age consumers need to do their homework and not take products at face value. I have made that mistake before.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<<a href="mailto:nfbcs-bounces@nfbnet.org" target="_blank">nfbcs-bounces@nfbnet.org</a>><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Mosen, Jonathan via NFBCS<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, June 19, 2026 10:15 AM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>NFB in Computer Science Mailing List <<a href="mailto:nfbcs@nfbnet.org" target="_blank">nfbcs@nfbnet.org</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Mosen, Jonathan <<a href="mailto:jmosen@nfb.org" target="_blank">jmosen@nfb.org</a>><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Hello Joe, yes, I have two months\u2019 hands-on experience with BrailleNote Evolve. I will not restate the findings of the review, which is comprehensive.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">If you are going to use it for coding, you may wish to, as you say, either connect a qwerty keyboard, or use computer Braille, which has fewer potential ambiguities.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">There is more to this question than writing the code though. The three-year-old processor in the device may have a bearing on whether it will meet your needs. You will find outcomes to be speedier for many
use cases if you use something like a Mantis Q40 to connect to a computer with a more powerful CPU.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ">Jonathan Mosen<br>
Executive Director for Accessibility Excellence<br>
National Federation of the Blind <br>
410-659-9314 ex 2233 <br>
<a href="mailto:jmosen@nfb.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:#467886">jmosen@nfb.org</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Reminder: Attend <a href="https://nfb.org/convention" target="_blank"><span style="color:#467886">National Convention</span></a>, July 3-8, 2026, in Austin, Texas.<br>
\u201cIt\u2019s the time of year where blind people are the majority.\u201d</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">NFBCS
<<a href="mailto:nfbcs-bounces@nfbnet.org" target="_blank">nfbcs-bounces@nfbnet.org</a>><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Joe Orozco via NFBCS<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, June 19, 2026 10:37 AM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>'NFB in Computer Science Mailing List' <<a href="mailto:nfbcs@nfbnet.org" target="_blank">nfbcs@nfbnet.org</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Joe Orozco <<a href="mailto:jsorozco@gmail.com" target="_blank">jsorozco@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [NFBCS] FW: Access On: The BrailleNote Evolve from HumanWare</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Does anyone here have hands-on experience with the device? I was tempted by the Perkins model but have hesitated based on unconfirmed reports that things were still buggy. That is, of course, to be expected, not a reflection on the device
itself, but for things like coding, I wonder if it makes more sense to wait for the QWERTY model. Yes, you can currently connect a QWERTY keyboard to it now, but I\u2019d really like to reduce the number of devices I carry around.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Anyway, just some questions for anyone with firsthand experience.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Actually, if anyone can speak to the Mantis Q40 and whether this would be a more viable and more affordable alternative, that would be great information as well.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">NFBCS
<<a href="mailto:nfbcs-bounces@nfbnet.org" target="_blank">nfbcs-bounces@nfbnet.org</a>><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Steve Jacobson via NFBCS<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, June 19, 2026 9:33 AM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:nfbcs@nfbnet.org" target="_blank">nfbcs@nfbnet.org</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Steve Jacobson <<a href="mailto:steve.jacobson@outlook.com" target="_blank">steve.jacobson@outlook.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>[NFBCS] FW: Access On: The BrailleNote Evolve from HumanWare</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This week's Access On features a comprehensive review and demonstration of BrailleNote Evolve, the latest generation of BrailleNote from HumanWare running Windows 11 Pro. here are the segments in the episode, which you can skip to using
the chapter feature of your podcast player or app. Looking ahead to our gaming Access On webinar 0:00:00 What is BrailleNote Evolve 0:02:13 The evolution that led to BrailleNote Evolve 0:06:11 BrailleNote Evolve with JAWS 0:12:22 Hardware 0:15:25 Dimensions
and portability 0:24:38 The keyboard 0:28:13 Setup 0:33:02 Starting, and the Main Menu 0:34:44 Testing the microphones 0:40:01 Word, BrailleNote Evolve, and NVDA 0:42:47 Options 0:58:18 Braille Editor 1:10:14 Victor Reader 1:11:54 File Manager 1:16:41 No Braille
Terminal 1:18:16 Final thoughts 1:19:45 Andrew Flatres and Rachel Ramos from HumanWare 1:31:18 Closing and contact info 2:02:08<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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