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<p>Have you considered running this through Claude or gpt? What
debugging have you done?</p>
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<p>Also, unless something has changed, TKInter is not accessible
with JAWS. You'll need to use something like WXPython, which may
be your actual issue.</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/25/2026 11:42 AM, Charles E. Black
via NFBCS wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Afternoon:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I am
running a Python script. I am creating a windows form and
getting some information, returning it to the console
program and printing it and saving it to a couple of
programs. The problem is that the windows form will not
receive focus. I am a blind person using JAWS, 2026. Below
is the base program and the windows form. If someone could
take a look at this and tell me wha I am doing wrong, it
would be appreciated.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Base:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">#
----------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">#
Console Program to Launch the Tkinter Form<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">#
----------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">#
Import the custom Tkinter form<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">from
user_form_module import UserForm<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">def
main():<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
print("Launching the form... Please fill it out.")<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
# Create instance of the form<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
form = UserForm()<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
# Run the form and wait for user input (blocks here until
submitted)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
name, role, comment = form.run()<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
# Display returned results in console using correct f-string
interpolation<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
print("Form completed! Values returned:")<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
print(f"Name: {name}")<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
print(f"Role: {role}")<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
print(f"Comment: {comment}")<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
# Save results to a text file<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
with open("form_results.txt", "w") as f:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
f.write(f"Name: {name}\nRole: {role}\nComment:
{comment}\n")<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
print("Values saved to form_results.txt")<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">if
__name__ == "__main__":<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
main()<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">windows
form:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">#
------------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">#
User Form Module (Windows Focus Bypass & JAWS Ready)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">#
------------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">import
tkinter as tk<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">from
tkinter import ttk<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">import
sys<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">class
UserForm:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
def __init__(self):<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
self.root = tk.Tk()<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
self.root.title("User Information Form")<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
self.name_value = ""<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
self.role_value = ""<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
self.comment_value = ""<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
# Handle window close (X button or Alt+F4)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
self.root.protocol("WM_DELETE_WINDOW", self.on_close)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
ttk.Label(self.root, text="Enter your
name:").pack(padx=10, pady=2)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
self.name_entry = ttk.Entry(self.root)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
self.name_entry.pack(padx=10, pady=2)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
ttk.Label(self.root, text="Select your
role:").pack(padx=10, pady=2)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
self.role_combo = ttk.Combobox(self.root,
values=["Admin", "User", "Guest"])<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
self.role_combo.pack(padx=10, pady=2)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
ttk.Label(self.root, text="Additional
comments:").pack(padx=10, pady=2)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
self.comment_entry = ttk.Entry(self.root)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
self.comment_entry.pack(padx=10, pady=2)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
ttk.Button(self.root, text="Submit",
command=self.submit_form).pack(padx=10, pady=10)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
# Schedule hard focus takeover once event loop begins<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
self.root.after(150, self._force_windows_focus)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
def _force_windows_focus(self):<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
if sys.platform.startswith("win"):<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
</span><span lang="FR"
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">import
ctypes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR"
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
user32 = ctypes.windll.user32<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR"
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
</span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">kernel32
= ctypes.windll.kernel32<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
# Get thread IDs for current foreground window (the
IDE) and Python GUI window<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
fg_hwnd = user32.GetForegroundWindow()<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
fg_thread_id =
user32.GetWindowThreadProcessId(fg_hwnd, None)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
app_thread_id = kernel32.GetCurrentThreadId()<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
# Attach thread inputs temporarily so OS allows
focus transfer<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
if fg_thread_id != app_thread_id:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
user32.AttachThreadInput(app_thread_id,
fg_thread_id, True)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
# Retrieve the actual Win32 window handle for
the Tk root<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
hwnd = user32.GetParent(self.root.winfo_id())<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
if hwnd == 0:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
hwnd = self.root.winfo_id()<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
user32.SetForegroundWindow(hwnd)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
user32.SetFocus(hwnd)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
# Detach thread input<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
user32.AttachThreadInput(app_thread_id,
fg_thread_id, False)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
# Tkinter internal focus assignments<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
self.root.lift()<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
self.name_entry.focus_force()<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
def submit_form(self):<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
self.name_value = self.name_entry.get()<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
self.role_value = self.role_combo.get()<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
self.comment_value = self.comment_entry.get()<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
self.root.quit()<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
self.root.destroy()<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
def on_close(self):<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
self.root.quit()<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
self.root.destroy()<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
def run(self):<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
self.root.mainloop()<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
return self.name_value, self.role_value,
self.comment_value<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Thanks
for any help.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Charles
Black<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Love
God, my wife, my children, and my dog, not necessarily in
that order.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none">From:</span></b><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none">
Louis Maher <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ljmaher03@outlook.com"><ljmaher03@outlook.com></a> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 16, 2024 10:14 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:nfbcs@nfbnet.org">nfbcs@nfbnet.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> 2024 Minutes Of The NFB Computer Science
Division<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hello,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Here are the minutes of the 2024 NFB in
Computer Science division annual meeting. Please let me know
about any additions or corrections.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Note that I am sending this email to the
NFBCS email list, and to all 2024 registered division members.
For this reason, many people may receive two copies of these
minutes.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-ligatures:none">Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-ligatures:none">Louis
Maher<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-ligatures:none">Phone:
713-444-7838<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-ligatures:none">Email: <a
href="mailto:ljmaher03@outlook.com" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">ljmaher03@outlook.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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