[Nfbf-l] Social Security

Thu Dec 11 03:34:28 UTC 2008

Right on David! RJ
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Evans" <drevans at bellsouth.net>
To: "NFB of Florida Listserv" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Social Security


>
> Dear Marion,
>
> You and I may know how to identify these fishing scams, but there are 
> people out there that don't.
> Most entities do not use e-mail to communicate, officially, such as Banks 
> credit card companies , but do it in writing or some other media you both 
> have agreed to in advance.
> I get at least one fishing scam a week and some of them sound real and 
> even scary , like the one from the IRS scam that said that If I did not 
> respond within 24 hours, a warrant would be issued for my arrest and my 
> property seized.
> I called there bluff and forwarded it on to the F.B.I. web site.
>
> As for the lawsuit, I think it has merit in that all government branches, 
> state and federal and Public entities such as businesses doing business 
> with the Public are covered by the ADA and are technically required to 
> provide information in alternative formats upon request.  The Only 
> government branch exempt is the Congress and Senate as Congress exempts 
> itself from most of the laws it passes, even the ADA.
> I will just wait to see how the lawsuit shakes out.
>
> David Evans, NFBF.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Marion & Martin" <swampfox1833 at verizon.net>
> To: "NFB of Florida Listserv" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 1:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Social Security
>
>
>> David,
>>    There are ways that an informed person can tell the difference between 
>> a
>> legitimate and a fishing email, as well as ways to protect oneself no 
>> matter
>> which. For instance, Pay Pal is one service in which many try to fish
>> information. If the message does not contain identifying information, 
>> such
>> as the registered name and uses some generic greeting like "Dear pay pal
>> Member" or Dear Social Security Recipient", it is not legitimate. If a
>> message asks you to clikc on a link to access the information, don't do 
>> it!
>> Rather, open a new browser and type the URL into the window so you know 
>> you
>> are really going to the appropriate site. Nonetheless, I still disagree 
>> that
>> the blind are systematically denied meaningful access to the information
>> from SSA and hope the suit is thrown out!
>>
>> Fraternally,
>> Marion
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "David Evans" <drevans at bellsouth.net>
>> To: "NFB of Florida Listserv" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 10:13 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Social Security
>>
>>
>>> '
>>> Dear All,
>>> Federal law requires the Social Security Administration to communicate 
>>> in
>>> writing and is very leery of e-mail as hackers and fishing artist 
>>> already
>>> try to use real looking e-mails to try to get your personal info, like
>>> your name, address and social security number and birth date with real
>>> looking fake e-mails.  How will you tell the fakes from the real?
>>> Think about the can of worms you are opening?
>>>
>>> David Evans, NFBF
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "David Anspach" <danspach at tampabay.rr.com>
>>> To: "'NFB of Florida Listserv'" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 9:42 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Social Security
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello John,
>>>> Like you, I have not heard of any legal action etc. against the SSA
>>>> because
>>>> of their non-use of accessible materials for blind beneficiaries. Well
>>>> apparently, the ACB has filed a class action lawsuit against the SSA 
>>>> for
>>>> their failure to provide communications etc. from the SSA to blind
>>>> beneficiaries. The suit claims the rehabilitation act  passed in the
>>>> early
>>>> 70's, I think, is the law being violated.
>>>>
>>>> To find more about the lawsuit, You have to really dig on the internet
>>>> via a
>>>> Google search to find it, but here is a link that describes this class
>>>> action lawsuit:
>>>> http://www.ssa.gov/pgm/classaction.htm
>>>>
>>>> Personally speaking, it would be nice to receive communications from 
>>>> the
>>>> SSA
>>>> in electronic format, but I'm not going to go out and sue them over it. 
>>>> I
>>>> have no problem using my scanner and OCR software to scan and then read
>>>> any
>>>> documents I receive from the SSA. SSA is in enough financial 
>>>> uncertainty
>>>> without forcing them to now retain legal counsel to fend off another
>>>> lawsuit. I'm sure they have lawyers on staff for suits like this, but I
>>>> would like to think that money spent on this lawsuit might be better
>>>> spent
>>>> elsewhere. This is just my opinion, however.
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nfbf-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbf-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of John
>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 11:42 AM
>>>> To: 'NFB of Florida Listserv'
>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Social Security
>>>>
>>>> Hello Sheila,
>>>> I am not sure what law you are under the impression is being violated 
>>>> by
>>>> you
>>>> receiving a standard form letter in the mail. I am not aware of any 
>>>> such
>>>> law. It would surely take some imagination to shoehorn the kind of mail
>>>> that
>>>> all recipients of mailings that the social security administration 
>>>> sends
>>>> out
>>>> under the ADA. Please clarify.
>>>> Cordially,
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>> John A. Ramsey Jr., Esq.
>>>>
>>>> Gainesville, FL 32609
>>>>
>>>> Phone: (352) 505-6642
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nfbf-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbf-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of sheila
>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 11:26 AM
>>>> To: NFB of Florida Listserv
>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Social Security
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This letter is not a scam, as we are getting a raise. It is just 
>>>> terrible
>>>> that the Social Security Administration is not more compliant with the
>>>> law,
>>>> as to not offer their correspondence in a more accessible format.
>>>>
>>>>
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