[Nfbf-l] Tell them it is a Service Dog!

[Sherri]

That's exactly what I do Sherrill. Hi to your puppy as well.

Sherri
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From: "Patricia A. Lipovsky" <plipovsky at cfl.rr.com>
To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Tell them it is a Service Dog!


> Well said Cheryl.  I do exactly what you described and don't make a big 
> deal about it.  .  .  I just put my dog at sit, drop the leash, tell her 
> to rest, step through the metal detector, then call my dog.  It works very 
> well, and I've never had a problem with anyone at the security point.  My 
> problem is getting my shoes and purse back, grin.  Last time I stood there 
> bare footed much longer than I wanted, smile.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Sherrill O'Brien" <sherrill.obrien at verizon.net>
> To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 1:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Tell them it is a Service Dog!
>
>
>> Hi David,
>>
>> To answer your question about the full body scanners, currently, they are
>> too small to accommodate a person and dog together.  Neither can they
>> accommodate a person in a wheelchair.  As it stands, we can go through 
>> the
>> regular metal detector.  You aren't subject to a pat down unless 1.  you 
>> are
>> one of the unfortunates randomly selected for a pat down, or 2.  if you 
>> set
>> off the metal detector as you pass through.  It isn't a bad idea to carry
>> your school's Id card, but as you stated so well, it isn't obligatory to
>> show it.  Many of us have adopted the technique of putting our dogs at a 
>> sit
>> stay at the point where you walk through.  We then drop the leash, 
>> reminding
>> the dog again to stay, and walk through.  I usually take the screener's 
>> hand
>> so I don't inadvertently run into the side of the detector.  This takes 
>> just
>> a couple seconds of course.  Then we call the dog through, and give lots 
>> of
>> praise.  The dog's gear usually sets off the alarm, so they only have to
>> inspect and pat down the dogs.  Most of them love this, and think it's 
>> some
>> sort of fun game.  By dropping the leash, there is no mistaking which one 
>> of
>> you set off the alarm, so this way you avoid the new more invasive pat 
>> down.
>> I don't make a big issue about this with the screeners.  I just tell them
>> I'm going through first, and don't ever ask whether I can drop the leash.
>> If you act confidently in this process, it sure helps.  In defense of the
>> screeners, of course some blind people are not at all independent.  So 
>> the
>> poor screener never knows what they're dealing with.  I also try to be
>> friendly, as rudeness is never good.  But assertiveness is.  Confidence 
>> and
>> knowing exactly how you plan to walk through with your dog will usually
>> result in a successful security experience.  I was going to call it good,
>> but that's going too far (smile.)
>>
>> Give that lovely big boy Jack a pat for me.
>>
>> Sherrill and Fallon
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfbf-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbf-l-bounces at nfbnet.org]On
>> Behalf Of David Evans
>> Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 11:30 AM
>> To: NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List; Sherri; sheila
>> Cc: Ralph Ingram; FRG-BVA at yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Tell them it is a Service Dog!
>>
>>
>> Dear Kirk,
>>
>> I believe that you are wrong in this one area of your presentation.
>> You do not, under the ADA have to carry or show anything to anyone, that
>> says that your dog is a service dog.
>> Some animals are privately trained or trained by their owner/user and
>> therefore can not be certified by a recognized agency.
>> These dogs are an acception and not the rule as most do come from 
>> agencies
>> such as "Seeing Eye", Southeast Guide Dog, or many of the other guide dog
>> schools.
>> These dogs all have a tattoo in their ear, an imbedded RF chip in their 
>> neck
>> and a special id disk on their collar.
>> By law, the only questions they can as of you are, "Is this a service
>> animal", and "What service does it perform for you."
>> If they ask more than this it is a ADA violation.
>> They must accept your word for it or violate the law.
>> The animal does not have to perform for them or do anything else.
>> Even being an employee of the TSA does not protect them from a civil 
>> lawsuit
>> if they go too far.
>> Under the latest ruling from the DOJ, only dogs and Mini horses are
>> considered to be true service animals.  Emotional support animals are not
>> considered service animals but are pets.  They do not have the protection 
>> of
>> the ADA.  They must be confined to a pet carrier if small enough or to 
>> the
>> baggage storage area if too large.
>>
>> I am currently investigating why the TSA policy is that we, and our dogs,
>> can not be screened by walking through the full body scanners, like 
>> everyone
>> else and must and can only be cleared by the use of a pat down.
>> I just want them to explain to me why my dog can not go through the 
>> scanner
>> and I can, or the lady with small children can and my dog can't.
>> They just need to give me some reasons I can accept.
>> Otherwise , it just gives them another way to discriminate and set us 
>> aside
>> as profoundly different than everyone else.
>> If they don't have to touch me or my dog, so much the better.
>>
>> David Evans, NFBF and GD Jack.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Kirk" <kvharmon54 at gmail.com>
>> To: "Sherri" <flmom2006 at gmail.com>; "sheila" <sayoung125 at att.net>
>> Cc: <FRG-BVA at yahoogroups.com>; "Ralph Ingram" <ralphingram99 at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 5:56 PM
>> Subject: [Nfbf-l] Tell them it is a Service Dog!
>>
>>
>>> Hi my friends, I thought this was worth passing along to our friends 
>>> that
>>> travel and have service Dogs!
>>> What To Expect If You Are Blind Or Visually Impaired And Use A Service 
>>> Dog
>>> If you are blind or visually impaired and use a service dog, both you 
>>> and
>>> your dog will have to go through screening.
>>> What Choices, If Any, Do You Have in the Screening Process?
>>> You will not be eligible for screening using Advanced Imaging Technology
>>> (AIT).
>>> You can choose to undergo Walk Through Metal Detector (WTMD) screening, 
>>> or
>>> request a pat-down. A pat-down may be conducted in a private screening
>>> area
>>> by an officer of the same gender.
>>> IF YOU AND YOUR DOG GO THROUGH THE WTMD TOGETHER AND ALARM, BOTH OF YOU
>>> WILL
>>> HAVE TO UNDERGO ADDITIONAL SCREENING.
>>> 1. To resolve the passenger alarm, the Transportation Security Officer
>>> (TSO)
>>> will conduct a pat-down to verify that no prohibited items are present.
>>> 2. Since your dog's harness most likely contains metal, the TSO will 
>>> need
>>> to
>>> physically inspect your dog and its belongings (collar, harness, leash,
>>> backpack, vest, etc.) in order to resolve the alarm. Although the dog's
>>> harness will not be removed, it and other items that s/he may be 
>>> carrying
>>> such as a backpack are subject to screening.
>>>
>>> IF YOU AND YOUR DOG WALK THOUGH THE WTMD INDIVIDUALLY AND ONE OR BOTH OF
>>> YOU
>>> ALARM Additional screening will be conducted as described above on 
>>> whoever
>>> causes the alarm.
>>>
>>> WHAT YOU CAN DO TO FACILITATE THE SCREENING PROCESS
>>>
>>> 1. Inform the Security Officer that the animal accompanying you is a
>>> service
>>> animal and not a pet, and carry appropriate identification to verify 
>>> this
>>> fact.
>>>
>>> 2. Inform the Security Officer how you and your dog will walk through 
>>> the
>>> WTMD (walking together or with the service dog walking in front or 
>>> behind
>>> you).
>>>
>>> 3. Keep control of your service animal while the TSO conducts the
>>> screening.
>>>
>>> WHAT ELSE SHOULD YOU EXPECT
>>>
>>> The TSO should:
>>>
>>> * Offer to assist you in placing your accessible property on the x-ray
>>> belt.
>>> * Provide you with verbal instructions regarding the screening process.
>>> * Allow you to stay with your dog throughout the entire screening 
>>> process.
>>> * Allow you to go to the front of the screening line if you choose to do
>>> so.
>>> * Allow you to go to the front of the line to be re-screened when you 
>>> have
>>> to leave the checkpoint to take your animal to a service animal relief
>>> area.
>>>
>>> WHAT ARE SOME OTHER IMPORTANT THINGS TO KNOW
>>>
>>> If you leave the sterile area to relieve your dog, you will have to
>>> undergo
>>> the entire screening process again. When you return to the security
>>> checkpoint, however, you are entitled to move to the front of the
>>> screening
>>> line to expedite the process.
>>>
>>> Medication for service animals is permitted through security checkpoints
>>> once it has undergone x-ray or visual inspection screening. All liquids,
>>> gels, or aerosols will have to undergo Liquid Container Screening.
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> __._,_.___
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>>> President & CEO
>>> Florida Disabled Citizens
>>> for Progress
>>> P.O.Box 61794
>>> Jacksonville, FL 32236
>>> PH(904) 783-9896
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