[Nfbf-l] Fwd: Ban American Airlines!!

Sat Oct 23 10:27:26 UTC 2010

Dan, no, the blind-x list is not an NFB 
list.  Blind-exchange was started back in '95 or 
so.  It is a general list for exchanging information.

earlier, Dan Hicks, wrote:
>Well, speaking as a liberal, and based on the text of the article, I feel
>that what was done to this blind guy was pretty skunky. I don't know what
>the Blind-X list is, but, my guess is it is not an NFB list. Most NFB
>members, where they call themselves liberal or conservative, would agree
>that this treatment was probably unfair and that the Airline will probably
>end up having to apologize for it, and will probably end up initiating some
>kind of training program for its employees.
>
>Dan
>
>
>“New ideas pass through three periods: (1) It can't be done. (2) It probably
>can be done, but it's not worth doing. (3) I knew it was a good idea all
>along!”
>                       — Arthur C. Clarke
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nfbf-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbf-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>Behalf Of
> > Kirk
> > Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 5:19 PM
> > To: NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Fwd: Ban American Airlines!!
> >
> > Guys, I have to ask you, what the heck does their politics have to do with
> > this issue?  I happen to be a central,conservative, but what does that
>have
> > to do with my right to have my white cane in my lap when I travel? Kirk
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "john schwery" <jschwery at embarqmail.com>
> > To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 1:35 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Fwd: Ban American Airlines!!
> >
> >
> > I have known many people on that list for years and many are liberals.
> >
> > earlier, TaraPrakash, wrote:
> > >Aside, how do you define liberals? Those who ask for full context?
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message ----- From: "john schwery"
><jschwery at embarqmail.com>
> > >To: <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
> > >Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 7:52 AM
> > >Subject: [Nfbf-l] Fwd: Ban American Airlines!!
> > >
> > >
> > >I sent this to the blind-x list and the liberals
> > >on that list snubbed noses at it, saying in
> > >effect, maybe, we don't have the full story.
> > >
> > >text of forwarded message follows:
> > >>Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 09:11:42 -0400
> > >>
> > >>How stupid is this?
> > >>
> > >>text of forwarded message follows:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>American Airlines just shot themselves in the foot with this incident!
> > >>>~~~
> > >>>Blind Man Asked To Give Up Cane On AA Flight
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>PITTSBURGH (KDKA)
> > >>>
> > >>>A blind man was told if he tried to use his
> > >>>cane he'd be removed from a flight and
> > >>>arrested and now he's asking for an apology.
> > >>>
> > >>>Bill Diamond is legally blind and sees nothing
> > >>>from his left eye and shadows from his right
> > >>>eye. He lost his sight 15 years ago due to diabetes.
> > >>>
> > >>>He's a Navy veteran and spent 13 years in the
> > >>>service. It was on a recent trip to a special
> > >>>veterans school in Chicago to learn how to use
> > >>>a talking computer where he ran into real
> > >>>trouble on an American Airlines flight.
> > >>>
> > >>>"American Airlines just wants customers who
> > >>>can see - it's not going to be a burden to
> > >>>them," he said. "Anybody with a disability is
> > >>>going to be a burden to American Airlines."
> > >>>
> > >>>Diamond caught his flight to Chicago out of
> > >>>Pittsburgh. He was brought to the plane in a
> > >>>wheelchair. He got on board using his cane and
> > >>>was told he had to give it up even though it was folded up.
> > >>>
> > >>>"I says, 'I need my cane.'
> > >>>
> > >>>"She goes, 'Sir, if you refuse to give up your
> > >>>cane, I will have no alternative but to call security,'" Diamond
> > >>>recalled.
> > >>>
> > >>>Faced with possible arrest, Diamond gave up
> > >>>the cane, sat on a nearly two-hour flight
> > >>>unable to get up and move around even though he needed to use the
> > >>>bathroom.
> > >>>
> > >>>"The stewardess acted like, 'Oh no, not
> > >>>another disabled person on my flight,'" he said.
> > >>>
> > >>>On his way back from Chicago, Diamond flew
> > >>>United. They had no problem with his cane. He
> > >>>used it to get to the men's room. He says it
> > >>>gave him his dignity back and his freedom.
> > >>>
> > >>>"That's my independence, that's my mode of
> > >>>travel, that's how I learned to travel being
> > >>>visually impaired," Diamond said. "They're
> > >>>taking something from me that I've learned to use."
> > >>>
> > >>>KDKA's Marty Griffin spoke with American
> > >>>Airlines Monday. They said they were
> > >>>investigating the matter and offered no further comment.
> > >>>
> > >>>Griffin could find no evidence indicating the
> > >>>use of a folding cane on a flight is
> > >>>determined to be against the policy of any airline.
> > >>>
> > >>>(© MMX, CBS Broadcasting Inc. All Rights Reserved.)
> > >>>
> > >>> From Our Neck Of The World, our current
> > >>> weather is:  Silver Springs, Florida Partly Cloudy, 60°F Wind:Calm
> > >>>Death is nature's way of telling you to slow down.
> > >>>Anna
> > >>text of forwarded message ends:
> > >>
> > >>John
> > >>Currently in Ocala, Florida Mostly Clear, 62°F Wind:Calm
> > >>"Wink, I'll do the rest!"
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> > >text of forwarded message ends:
> > >
> > >John
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> > >Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in
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