[Nfbf-l] humerous signs

Sherri flmom2006 at gmail.com
Sun Sep 12 23:25:35 UTC 2010 

I need one of those "Out of my mind" signs. Really great! *lol.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark Tardif" <markspark at bellsouth.net>
To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Amtrak


> Well, I'm pleased about that.  The more people like it, the more likely I 
> will keep that as a signature.  I have a sign in my office at work that 
> says, "Out of my mind, be back in 5 minutes," and of course I chose to 
> leave it hanging askew, but for some reason everyone thinks that's 
> appropriate.
>
> Mark Tardif
> Welcome to my planet
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kirk" <kvharmon54 at gmail.com>
> To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 11:19 AM
> Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Amtrak
>
>
>> Well Mark, I happen to like your Planet! LOL! KH
>> Kirk Harmon
>> 1138 Evening Stroll Lane
>> Jacksonville, FL. 32221
>>
>> Florida Disabled Citizens for Progress, Inc.
>> President & CEO
>> PH: (904) 783-9896
>> Cell: (407) 473-2176
>>
>> " Turning Hope into Reality"!
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Mark Tardif" <markspark at bellsouth.net>
>> To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 9:25 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Amtrak
>>
>>
>> Some of it is not insight on their part, however.  Some of it is just
>> ignorance.  Having said that, I have no problem being given that choice 
>> of
>> asking for help or not doing so, and let's face it, in big airports, I 
>> don't
>> think I should have to prove myself either, and I will ask for 
>> assistance.
>> I think that is perfectly acceptable and one should feel no shame about
>> that.  But it is the idea that the power of choice can be taken away from 
>> us
>> if we are not careful.  We should be the ones who should make those 
>> choices,
>> not necessarily a well-meaning staff person who thinks they know what's
>> best.  Also, as far as taking a wheelchair goes, everyone has different
>> needs.  If your legs aren't in the best of shape, then I think it is
>> perfectly respectable to take a wheelchair.  I am just saying that I
>> personally kind of like to walk for various reasons, and probably ought 
>> to
>> be doing more of it anyway, so I prefer not to use a wheelchair.
>>
>> Mark Tardif
>> Welcome to my planet
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Kirk" <kvharmon54 at gmail.com>
>> To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 8:00 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Amtrak
>>
>>
>>> Mark, I am one who  lost his sight at 42 years of age, many years of 
>>> sight
>>> prior to my blindness gave me a different perspecctive of many issues 
>>> that
>>> after 16 years of observing our blind  community has made me realize the
>>> major differences between legal blindness and total blindness from 
>>> birth!
>>> I
>>> believe that if we all respected and better understood the  majority of
>>> our
>>> population which is sighted, we would understand why, in their eyes, we
>>> stand out   from the majority of people in airports, bus stations, and
>>> train
>>> stations , Etc. The reason I  say this  is that I have no pproblem 
>>> about
>>> asking for assistance when needed as whenever i needed the same as a
>>> sighted
>>> person, it never bothered me either.  When we look at our situations
>>> differently and as the sighted community would, we can simply say that 
>>> we
>>> payed for these employees to take care of us while we are in their 
>>> hands,
>>> so
>>> why not take full advantage of our money for our fares! I guess my
>>> sensitivity about waiting for the plane to clear before I disembark is
>>> normally no problem for me when asked nor is it for using a wheellchair 
>>> to
>>> get across these large facilities. I like the wheellchair as I can stack
>>> my
>>> luggage on  my lap and swiftly tote along and with my legs not in the 
>>> best
>>> of shape, the chair is a relief. I also feel comfortable asking for 
>>> ground
>>> assistance when I need to get to where I need to be next without feeling
>>> like I'm being  pressured to prove myself or given special attention 
>>> away
>>> from the rest of the passengers! I guess it is all in perspecctive, as 
>>> I
>>> am
>>> legally blind, not totally blind where I might be more sensitive to 
>>> these
>>> encounters by staff!  I hope I haven't offended anyone with my comments,
>>> but
>>> living 42 years from within the 20/20 world of sight, mixing amongst 
>>> them,
>>> working as part of them, I can appreciate their insights, attitudes and
>>> reactions about us still! I sure hope my opinion here hasen't offended 
>>> any
>>> of my friends and my fight to change any wrongs from the sighted world 
>>> on
>>> our behalf will always be a priority that I will fight till the end of
>>> time!
>>> Your friend, KH
>>>
>>> Kirk Harmon
>>> 1138 Evening Stroll Lane
>>> Jacksonville, FL. 32221
>>>
>>> Florida Disabled Citizens for Progress, Inc.
>>> President & CEO
>>> PH: (904) 783-9896
>>> Cell: (407) 473-2176
>>>
>>> " Turning Hope into Reality"!
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Mark Tardif" <markspark at bellsouth.net>
>>> To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 5:42 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Amtrak
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello, friends,
>>>
>>> I haven't traveled on Amtrak in some time.  However, air transportation
>>> gets
>>> mixed reviews from me, I think mostly better than it used to be.  For
>>> example, I've been in situations where airport personnel used to insist
>>> that
>>> I get into a wheelchair when I arrived at my destination.  Recently, it
>>> seems, if people have tried to do that, all it has taken is me letting
>>> them
>>> know that I prefer to walk, and that's been the end of it.  If I am 
>>> making
>>> tight, quick connections between flights, I really have no problem
>>> receiving
>>> help from personnel in getting from one gate to the next.  In fact,
>>> sometimes I get anxious if I am asked to wait while everyone else is
>>> deplaning, thinking I might miss my next flight.  Sometimes I have even
>>> been
>>> known to get off with everyone else and just ask gate personnel inside 
>>> the
>>> terminal where my next flight leaves from.
>>>
>>> Mark Tardif
>>> Welcome to my planet
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Kirk" <kvharmon54 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 5:18 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Amtrak
>>>
>>>
>>>> Tara and Holly,
>>>> I have traveled with both  travel services and have never had any
>>>> problems.
>>>> I am not saying that you didn't have all of your very frustrating
>>>> experiences Tara, and have a right to be frustrated and contemplating a
>>>> lawsuit, I am just saying that I have never encountered such
>>>> difficculties
>>>> personally with these companies. Holly, I am a bit surprised by the 
>>>> blue
>>>> and
>>>> white cloths you receive from the staff on Am Trak. I haven''t
>>>> experienced
>>>> this either as I have traveled Am Trak many times throughout the years
>>>> from
>>>> Orlando to Jax, as well as Orlando to Washington,D.C. sevveral times as
>>>> well. I can imagine how embarrased this treatment must feel to you as 
>>>> it
>>>> would really piss me off! I have always asked for ground assistance
>>>> evvery
>>>> time I travel, so I am at a point of concern  as to whether this kind 
>>>> of
>>>> treatment is simply a  hit and a miss with the Blind community or what,
>>>> as
>>>> your situations are real and valid, as are mine never having these
>>>> problems
>>>> on these specific travel companies!  KH
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kirk Harmon
>>>> 1138 Evening Stroll Lane
>>>> Jacksonville, FL. 32221
>>>>
>>>> Florida Disabled Citizens for Progress, Inc.
>>>> President & CEO
>>>> PH: (904) 783-9896
>>>> Cell: (407) 473-2176
>>>>
>>>> " Turning Hope into Reality"!
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "TaraPrakash" <taraprakash at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 4:55 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Amtrak
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Holly, people say we are living in 21st century. I am not sure what
>>>> century
>>>> they are in.
>>>>
>>>> It's not related but I have felt disgustingly helpless on air tran
>>>> flights
>>>> as I am traveling frequently between Atlanta and Orlando. Interestingly 
>>>> I
>>>> nevver had issues with Air tran staff based in Orlando but the Atlanta
>>>> people take me as a liability. Once I had to wait for 35 minutes before
>>>> somebody managed to come to take me to the baggage claim area from the
>>>> aircraft. The other day one guy boarded me in the train and left saying
>>>> this
>>>> train will leave you there. While leaving he told a passenger to tell 
>>>> me
>>>> when the the train reached baggage claim.
>>>>
>>>> While departing from Atlanta, one evening, the gate agent said she will
>>>> help
>>>> me boarding. She finished boarding and started announcing for my name.
>>>> When
>>>> I reached her and reminded that she herself told me to wait she said we
>>>> are
>>>> fine and the plane is still there.
>>>>
>>>> On my most recent flight, I lost my Victor Reader Stream. When I called
>>>> them
>>>> to report the loss I was told that I didn't actually fly that day. The
>>>> gate
>>>> agent had put a "no show" for me. So before I faxed my boarding pass 
>>>> they
>>>> would not believe I flew that evening. If there was a plane crash, I
>>>> wouldn't have officially died, but wouldn't be living either.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's not funny. I am contemplating a legal action. I wish I had some
>>>> lawyer
>>>> to take care of this this sucking attitude. I so much want to misspell
>>>> 'sucking'.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Holly" <hbeanie at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NFB of Florida Listserv" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 3:21 PM
>>>> Subject: [Nfbf-l] Amtrak
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I am on Amtrak right now. The employees put a white tag over my 
>>>>>neighbors
>>>>> seat but a blue on over my seat.  It states where I am getting off the
>>>>> train
>>>>> on one side.  On the other side it states KEEP IN SIGHT,  SEAT CHECK
>>>>> /DEST.
>>>>> The white label states seat check /dest, but does not state keep in
>>>>> sight.
>>>>> This morning I had a white label over my seat. This afternoon, I have 
>>>>> a
>>>>> blue
>>>>> on.
>>>>> I feel like a child, being followed to the bathroom, the other cars,
>>>>> etc.
>>>>> I was not given a choice in the color of label that is over my seat. I
>>>>> think
>>>>> I can say discrimination.
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