[Nfbf-l] Amtrak

Mon Sep 13 11:38:55 UTC 2010

Dan, I like your quote! KH
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dan Hicks" <danjhicks at yahoo.com>
To: "'NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List'" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 7:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Amtrak

I don't know why some other's tags did not have the "Keep in Sight" phrase.
Maybe they just did not have it displayed or maybe it had something to do
with their destination. This is a very standard thing, though. If you go to
a Google search on "Keep in Sight" you will come to someone's Flickr.com
page with vacation photos and a "Keep in Sight" tag hanging down from the
luggage rack. I do think that the color of the tags is interesting. Digging
a bit on Google, though, it appears that they do use large green tags for
people who request special attention.

As to why they followed you to the dining car... All I can say is they might
have just been going the same way -- there are only two directions on a
train, with and against the direction of motion. Maybe they were hungry?

Dan

"New ideas pass through three periods: (1) It can't be done. (2) It probably
can be done, but it's not worth doing. (3) I knew it was a good idea all
along!"
                      - Arthur C. Clarke

> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfbf-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbf-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of
> Holly
> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 5:29 PM
> To: NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Amtrak
>
> Dan, why don't the white tags they use of the other people's seat say
> "Keep in Sight"? And why did they follow me to the food car?
> Holly
>
> On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Dan Hicks <danjhicks at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > I can clear up some of this. The "Keep in Sight" part of the slip is no
big
> > deal. It just means keep this card or slip showing or in the sight of
the
> > conductor so he or she will know where the passenger in that seat is
> > supposed to get off. It has nothing to do with keeping the passenger in
> > sight, following him / her around, etc.. Patti Johnson and others have
shown
> > me slips with "Keep in Sight" on them that date back as far as the
> > Eisenhower administration. Then again, nothing to do with blindness. We
have
> > to pick our battles.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> > "New ideas pass through three periods: (1) It can't be done. (2) It
probably
> > can be done, but it's not worth doing. (3) I knew it was a good idea all
> > along!"
> > - Arthur C. Clarke
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nfbf-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbf-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> > Behalf Of
> >> Holly
> >> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 12:58 AM
> >> To: NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List
> >> Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Amtrak
> >>
> >> We all have and make our own choices about what we feel is right for
> >> us. Amtrak's policy, if I understand it correctly, is to place this
> >> tag about the seat to assist if there is an accident or emergency.
> >> However, they don't place "Keep In Sight" tags over the seats of the
> >> elderly or children. Even the lady across the isle from me today, she
> >> used a wheelchair to get on the train, transfered out of it and she
> >> had a white tag above her seat. Okay, some one will be thinking that
> >> the tags indicated the destination. however, that lady and I both got
> >> off at the same stop, Deland. Now, the ride this morning to Orlando, I
> >> had a white tag just like everyone else. So, I agree, we all have
> >> different experiences. Hell, I had two different experiences in one
> >> day.
> >>
> >> I am not judging anyone for the level of assistance they might need.
> >> There are times that I don't want or need accommodations and should
> >> not be forced to take them. That is all I am saying. I love riding
> >> Amtrak, it is cheaper and quicker, with more space then Greyhound. I
> >> just don't like how they label me.
> >> Holly
> >>
> >> On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 11:12 PM, TaraPrakash <taraprakash at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >> > I agree Sherri. Still somehow I have always found commendible service
in
> >> > Orlando airport. Atlanta has been mixed but more towards bad side.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sherri" <flmom2006 at gmail.com>
> >> > To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
> >> > Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 8:19 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Amtrak
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Hi Tara,
> >> >>
> >> >> The way we are treated at air ports is kind of person-dependent. It
> > just
> >> >> depends on the customer service agent you get! It's ridiculous that
> > they
> >> >> said that you weren't even flying that day! How absurd. I'd go
forward
> > with
> >> >> your action. Sorry about the loss of your Stream.
> >> >>
> >> >> Sherri
> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "TaraPrakash"
> > <taraprakash at gmail.com>
> >> >> To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
> >> >> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 4:55 PM
> >> >> Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Amtrak
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>> Holly, people say we are living in 21st century. I am not sure what
> >> >>> century they are in.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> It's not related but I have felt disgustingly helpless on air tran
> >> >>> flights as I am traveling frequently between Atlanta and Orlando.
> >> >>> Interestingly I nevver had issues with Air tran staff based in
Orlando
> > but
> >> >>> the Atlanta people take me as a liability. Once I had to wait for
35
> > minutes
> >> >>> before somebody managed to come to take me to the baggage claim
area
> >> from
> >> >>> the aircraft. The other day one guy boarded me in the train and
left
> > saying
> >> >>> this train will leave you there. While leaving he told a passenger
to
> > tell
> >> >>> me when the the train reached baggage claim.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> While departing from Atlanta, one evening, the gate agent said she
> > will
> >> >>> help me boarding. She finished boarding and started announcing for
my
> > name.
> >> >>> When I reached her and reminded that she herself told me to wait
she
> > said we
> >> >>> are fine and the plane is still there.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On my most recent flight, I lost my Victor Reader Stream. When I
> > called
> >> >>> them to report the loss I was told that I didn't actually fly that
> > day. The
> >> >>> gate agent had put a "no show" for me. So before I faxed my
boarding
> > pass
> >> >>> they would not believe I flew that evening. If there was a plane
> > crash, I
> >> >>> wouldn't have officially died, but wouldn't be living either.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> It's not funny. I am contemplating a legal action. I wish I had
some
> >> >>> lawyer to take care of this this sucking attitude. I so much want
to
> >> >>> misspell 'sucking'.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Holly" <hbeanie at gmail.com>
> >> >>> To: "NFB of Florida Listserv" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
> >> >>> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 3:21 PM
> >> >>> Subject: [Nfbf-l] Amtrak
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> I am on Amtrak right now. The employees put a white tag over my
> >> >>>> neighbors
> >> >>>> seat but a blue on over my seat. It states where I am getting off
> > the
> >> >>>> train
> >> >>>> on one side. On the other side it states KEEP IN SIGHT, SEAT
CHECK
> >> >>>> /DEST.
> >> >>>> The white label states seat check /dest, but does not state keep
in
> >> >>>> sight.
> >> >>>> This morning I had a white label over my seat. This afternoon, I
have
> > a
> >> >>>> blue
> >> >>>> on.
> >> >>>> I feel like a child, being followed to the bathroom, the other
cars,
> >> >>>> etc.
> >> >>>> I was not given a choice in the color of label that is over my
seat.
> > I
> >> >>>> think
> >> >>>> I can say discrimination.
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