[Nfbf-l] State School

[Joanne]

I not me to imply that all state blind are immature, but I know several that 
they are.  Please remember that I don't know everyone.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sherri" <flmom2006 at gmail.com>
To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] State School


Bravo Mark! Right on! Thank you for defending us poor. socially inept,
immature, incapable School for the Blind educated people. I have not had
time to look at e-mails, so I am playing catch-up.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark Tardif" <markspark at bellsouth.net>
To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] State School


> I'm not sure we can stereotype people who attended schools for the blind
> and type cast them like that.  I attended a school for the blind and I
> lived with a friend who was mainstreamed.  Guess what, I think she was
> much less likely to want to join the real world, at times I got the sense
> she wanted to live in a "blind ghetto."  Public schooling can be brutal on
> a lot of kids, and if you are at all different, forget it.  I also had a
> boss once who was also blind and we worked together in the early eighties.
> He thought that mainstreaming sounded good on paper, but he had had a
> chance to observe and talk to some of these people who were mainstreamed,
> and was disappointed.  He said they came across as cynical. apathetic,
> etc.  So, just one man's opinion, it appears to be different for different
> children. Also, I would say that the NFB influence, as shown by centers
> like Louisiana and Colorado, seems to try to emphasize that we cannot
> expect the world to provide us extra privileges that we need to adapt to
> it.  So I don't know what happened at Daytona, and anyone may enlighten
> me, but I doubt it was the influence of the NFB that caused it to go
> downhill.
>
> Mark Tardif
> Welcome to my planet
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kirk" <kvharmon54 at gmail.com>
> To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 12:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] State School
>
>
>> Joann, I so agree with you on this topic! I, too, have seen many blind
>> individuals that act so childlike compared to others and have wondered
>> why.
>> Why some are always figitting, and others are not. I was told it was due
>> to
>> their parents allowing them to do what they wished without letting them
>> know it is not polite to rock or figit all the time in their seets,etc. I
>> was also told it was because they were placed in their playpens for hours
>> to
>> keep them safe and they would get extremely bored so they developed
>> habits
>> that were very distracting to others in a room and such. These behaviors
>> are
>> what the majority of our population (sighted) see and assume we are not
>> prepared to be on an even  keel with them and until we try and feel
>> comfortable about talking about these foibles with some of usletting them
>> know this behavior is not acceptable and quite rude as well, we will have
>> diminished and negative attention brought our way. Just one man's opinion
>> is
>> all! Kirk
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Joanne" <jdking09 at earthlink.net>
>> To: <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 12:21 PM
>> Subject: [Nfbf-l] State School
>>
>>
>> I know first hand what a shambles the Daytona School became after it was
>> influenced by NFB's  theory of teaching independents to the blind.   If I
>> were
>> in charge  I would first have every student believe in their dignity.
>> Then
>> I
>> would teach them to believe  that they can achieve anything if they
>> really
>> want
>> to.  and the other important thing is to join society without thinking
>> that
>> they
>> need  special treatment.  You can't burn the candle at both ends.  And
>> that
>> is
>> what they had done at the center.  That's why the school is not on track.
>> The people that I have known before NFB's influence had a better chance
>> of
>> learning all this.  After that forget it.
>> I personally grew up in public and private schools and learned my own
>> independents because I wanted to.  I agree that one can always pick out a
>> blind
>> student who was educated at a school for the blind including one like
>> Daytona.
>> They act like a child..
>> So whether it is NFB or ACB or anything else.  A blind person can be so
>> called
>> Normal if treated like they are normal.
>> We are a very small percentage of society.  Therefore, it is us, who
>> needs
>> to
>> comply with the majority.
>> Please pass this on to the NFB and the ACB and any other Organizations
>> who
>> feel
>> that special privileges is the only way to go.  I guess what I am trying
>> to
>> say
>> is stop degrading us.
>>
>>
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