[Nfbf-l] State School

Thu Apr 7 00:20:43 UTC 2011

You got it, Sherri.  From another socially immature, inept school for the 
blind educated kid, this defense is much needed.

Mark Tardif
Welcome to my planet
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sherri" <flmom2006 at gmail.com>
To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] State School

> Bravo Mark! Right on! Thank you for defending us poor. socially inept, 
> immature, incapable School for the Blind educated people. I have not had 
> time to look at e-mails, so I am playing catch-up.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mark Tardif" <markspark at bellsouth.net>
> To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 8:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] State School
>
>
>> I'm not sure we can stereotype people who attended schools for the blind 
>> and type cast them like that.  I attended a school for the blind and I 
>> lived with a friend who was mainstreamed.  Guess what, I think she was 
>> much less likely to want to join the real world, at times I got the sense 
>> she wanted to live in a "blind ghetto."  Public schooling can be brutal 
>> on a lot of kids, and if you are at all different, forget it.  I also had 
>> a boss once who was also blind and we worked together in the early 
>> eighties. He thought that mainstreaming sounded good on paper, but he had 
>> had a chance to observe and talk to some of these people who were 
>> mainstreamed, and was disappointed.  He said they came across as cynical. 
>> apathetic, etc.  So, just one man's opinion, it appears to be different 
>> for different children. Also, I would say that the NFB influence, as 
>> shown by centers like Louisiana and Colorado, seems to try to emphasize 
>> that we cannot expect the world to provide us extra privileges that we 
>> need to adapt to it.  So I don't know what happened at Daytona, and 
>> anyone may enlighten me, but I doubt it was the influence of the NFB that 
>> caused it to go downhill.
>>
>> Mark Tardif
>> Welcome to my planet
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Kirk" <kvharmon54 at gmail.com>
>> To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 12:53 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] State School
>>
>>
>>> Joann, I so agree with you on this topic! I, too, have seen many blind
>>> individuals that act so childlike compared to others and have wondered 
>>> why.
>>> Why some are always figitting, and others are not. I was told it was due 
>>> to
>>> their parents allowing them to do what they wished without letting them
>>> know it is not polite to rock or figit all the time in their seets,etc. 
>>> I
>>> was also told it was because they were placed in their playpens for 
>>> hours to
>>> keep them safe and they would get extremely bored so they developed 
>>> habits
>>> that were very distracting to others in a room and such. These behaviors 
>>> are
>>> what the majority of our population (sighted) see and assume we are not
>>> prepared to be on an even  keel with them and until we try and feel
>>> comfortable about talking about these foibles with some of usletting 
>>> them
>>> know this behavior is not acceptable and quite rude as well, we will 
>>> have
>>> diminished and negative attention brought our way. Just one man's 
>>> opinion is
>>> all! Kirk
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Joanne" <jdking09 at earthlink.net>
>>> To: <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 12:21 PM
>>> Subject: [Nfbf-l] State School
>>>
>>>
>>> I know first hand what a shambles the Daytona School became after it was
>>> influenced by NFB's  theory of teaching independents to the blind.   If 
>>> I
>>> were
>>> in charge  I would first have every student believe in their dignity. 
>>> Then
>>> I
>>> would teach them to believe  that they can achieve anything if they 
>>> really
>>> want
>>> to.  and the other important thing is to join society without thinking 
>>> that
>>> they
>>> need  special treatment.  You can't burn the candle at both ends.  And 
>>> that
>>> is
>>> what they had done at the center.  That's why the school is not on 
>>> track.
>>> The people that I have known before NFB's influence had a better chance 
>>> of
>>> learning all this.  After that forget it.
>>> I personally grew up in public and private schools and learned my own
>>> independents because I wanted to.  I agree that one can always pick out 
>>> a
>>> blind
>>> student who was educated at a school for the blind including one like
>>> Daytona.
>>> They act like a child..
>>> So whether it is NFB or ACB or anything else.  A blind person can be so
>>> called
>>> Normal if treated like they are normal.
>>> We are a very small percentage of society.  Therefore, it is us, who 
>>> needs
>>> to
>>> comply with the majority.
>>> Please pass this on to the NFB and the ACB and any other Organizations 
>>> who
>>> feel
>>> that special privileges is the only way to go.  I guess what I am trying 
>>> to
>>> say
>>> is stop degrading us.
>>>
>>>
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