[Nfbf-l] Bureaucracy to the Max

Wed Jun 27 14:49:51 UTC 2012

What a story of woe!  I had a similar problem replacing an expired state ID, 
but without as many trips.  I had to go back to the Tax Collector's office a 
second time because they needed my marriage licenses.  Fortunately, I didn't 
tell the lady at the counter that my second husband was deceased; I probably 
would have needed to produce a death certificate that is not in my 
possession.
Life is too short to deal with bureaucracy!

Tinetta Cooper

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Patricia A. Lipovsky" <plipovsky at cfl.rr.com>
To: "NFBF List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 10:04 AM
Subject: [Nfbf-l] Bureaucracy to the Max

> Hi all.
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>
>
> I wanted to write and share my wonderful experience I had recently with 
> the Department of Motor Vehicles.  Talk about bureaucracy, this is 
> bureaucracy to the Max as far as I'm concerned.  It's a tad long, and I 
> apologize for that, but I didn't want to leave out too many details so you 
> could get the complete picture of exactly what happened.
>
>
>
> It all started when my state ID expired.  Warning:   If you do anything at 
> all, do not let your ID expire..  It will be one of the biggest mistake 
> you make!!
>
>
>
> First trip to the DMV
>
> I was told by a friend, even though my ID expired, just take it to the 
> DMV, and they will just issue me a new one.     Wrong!
>
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>
> Since there is a two hour turn around time with my Parra transit, a very 
> kind lady from my church offered to take me to the DMV so I wouldn't have 
> to wait so long for my return trip.
>
>
>
> I took my expired ID, as my friend suggested, which of course had my 
> picture on it, and after standing in line for about 30 minutes, was told 
> it could not be accepted because it was expired.  I then offered another 
> ID with a picture of my service animal and myself on it, but they still 
> wouldn't budge.  They told me I needed to come back with two utility 
> bills, to show proof of address, a social security card or Birth 
> certificate, and I would be good to go.
>
>
>
>    Second Trip to the DMV
>
> About two or three  weeks later, my very kind church lady and I go back to 
> the DMV, water and electric bills in hand, along with my two photo ID's, 
> my birth certificate, and got back in line to wait my turn.  I get up to 
> the reception desk with all my info, and after looking at it, was asked 
> for my social security card.  I explained I misplaced it, and the last 
> time I was there, was told my birth certificate along with the other 
> pieces of information I had would suffice.  She apologizes, and states my 
> social security card is required.  I could go to the social security 
> office and obtain a letter which they would accept, substantiating that I 
> did have a social security card.
>
>
>
> Feeling very frustrated, since I truly thought this issue was going to be 
> resolved at this time, and had other things to do, I told my very kind 
> church lady friend that we would deal with this another day.  Once again, 
> she graciously offered to take me to the Social Security office one day 
> the next week, and then back to the DMV, which was exactly what we did.
>
>
>
> Third Trip to the DNV
>
> We go back to the DNV a week later, social security letter in hand, two 
> utility bills, two picture ID's, and my birth certificate.  I anxiously 
> awaited my turn, and after waiting approximately 30 to 45 minutes, got up 
> to the desk and handed the person my info.  After looking through it, she 
> states my name on my birth certificate is not the same as on the other 
> pieces of information. My response was, "Yes, I know, I got married." Can 
> you guess what her next statement is? You got it.  She now needs a 
> certified copy of my marriage certificate.
>
> Needless to say, at this point, I wanted to scream, but thanks to our Lord 
> and Savior, managed to compose myself.   I then proceeded to tell her that 
> this was my third trip to the DMV, and pointed out that she did have two 
> picture ID's right there in her hot little hand, (well I did leave the 
> words hot little hand part out), with me standing right in front of her, 
> verifying those pictures, plus two utility bills which verified home 
> address and name, as well as my social security letter.  Noticing how 
> frustrated I was, she decided to check with her boss, and upon return, 
> proceeded to apologize for my inconvenience, but stated I would still have 
> to come back with the marriage certificate.
>
> Frustrated, disappointed, and discouraged, out the door we went for the 
> third time, knowing I had yet another obstacle to overcome.
>
>
>
> After numerous calls to New Jersey, I finally got to the correct office, 
> where I was told they would be happy to send me a copy of my marriage 
> certificate, provided I furnished them with a current driver's license 
> /ID.  Hmmm, another obstacle!  Long story short, I ended up contacting my 
> x, who found it, and sent it to me.  Elated, I almost said "I love you", 
> but caught myself in the nick of time, as that wouldn't have been a very 
> good idea.
>
>
>
> Fourth Trip to the DMV
>
> So now my church lady friend and I are back at the DMV, with two photo 
> ID's, two utility bills, my social security letter, my birth certificate, 
> and my marriage certificate.  I once again, get up to the desk, feeling 
> very confident this would be the day I get my new ID, but there was yet 
> another glitch.  The marriage certificate that my x thought was the 
> original, was a copy, and I was told she could not accept a copy.  Now, I 
> can feel the blood rush to my head, and am trying very hard to maintain my 
> composure.  She obviously took note of my expression, knowing I had been 
> there before, and decided to ask her boss if she could accept it.  Luckily 
> for my sake they did, and I was finally able to go on my merry way with my 
> new ID.
>
>
>
> Now, let me say because of what happened with 911, and the identity theft 
> problem, I do understand the security issue, and totally agree with it one 
> hundred percent, but what happened in my case though, I feel was overkill. 
> If I didn't have two photo ID's, which obviously reiterated who I was, I 
> could understand connecting all the dots, but truly feel that wasn't 
> necessary here.
>
>
>
> Also, people who drive get notified 2 months in advance that their license 
> will be expiring.
>
> People with state ID's who do not drive, do not ever get notified.  What's 
> up with that???
>
>
>
> Are people who don't drive less important? Do they not deserve equal 
> treatment?  Is this discrimination?
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>
>
> You tell me!!
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>
> And remember....
> If you lack the courage to  start, you have already finished.
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