[Nfbf-l] Stand your ground and s2188

Thu Mar 22 19:58:56 UTC 2012

Tara,  like you, am notgoing to debate human nature any longer! As you know 
all party affiliations that people  have whether it be from the left, 
center, or right come in  different levels of conviction. Humans like to 
believe what they feel is correct is what all shoud feel or else they stand 
alone and correct! Is this not true? It is not just in politics, advocacy, 
fashion, food, etc. as we could go on  and on in the humans need to be 
correct and noticed for being so! Our ego's are just as guilty for so much 
wrong doing in this world as are our political convictions and/or beliefs! 
America  is based  on the right to free speech. This is what makes us great. 
What has caused this right to  create  trouble is when individuals ego's get 
in the way of reason, the written laws,  and open minded dialogue! which, As 
a long working advocate for the blind, I seen many good efforts go to the 
wayside for  the flaws of nature we have that  I have  mentioned hear as 
well, not the cause that  was needed but lost! there will be no  resolution 
to this discussion on  this site as that  would only be done if all were to 
do more listening openly and trying less to convince that their opinions are 
the only opinions all should consider or follow! I served this Country for 
many years to defend the right for our people to bear arms, even  though I 
personal don't own a gun, defend their property, debate  freely like we do, 
but I never would defend the flawed ego's  of mankind that  are among  just 
a few of the reasons there are so many people in  conflict  throughout this 
country as wwell  as the world, not  the laws that have been written for 
them!Laws are only as good as the "responsibility" of us as individuals to 
respect them and if not, then  punishment or justice should prevail! Your 
friend in the cause, Kirk

human nature
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tara Prakash" <taraprakash at gmail.com>
To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Stand your ground and s2188

Hi Kirk. The below email is not completely in response to your email.
But your suggestion in other words is, let Fox and its enlightened
commentators come up with their interpretation of facts. With Rush Limbaugh
in trouble calling a student a whore people are still trying to be cautious
in their usual business of twisting the facts.
I am trying to keep this relevant to the blind, and this is my last email as
we may be straying in to an off topic territory.
I would say this though. Some people would prefer their party affiliations
more than the interest of the blind. Whatever the party says, it is right no
matter if it means the repeal of ADA or any accessibility norms. They won't
oppose anything they say. After all it is government's interference in the
ugly business of business. Tea party's interest is more important than the
interest of the blind. What Rush Limbaugh says is always signed by Jesus
Christ, who taught us to use the guns when facing danger. We have a member
in Orlando chapter who told me he would like to shoot thepeople in Congress.
That was before this tea party congress. He believed there should be no
government and no interference in business. When I said well, you asked a
government agency for support, he was quite for a while and then said it was
a different matter. Rationality and tea party go as much together, as guns
and Jesus Christ goes.
So, what is important is what Rush Limbaugh says, not what is desirable for
the bllind. I just wish they beat their drum for NRA and tea party off list.
This is how it sounds:

dumb, dumb!
 dumb!
dumb, dumb,
dumb
!dumb, dumb,
dumb.
?dumb!
dumb, dumb
!dumb, dumb, dumb,
dumb, dumb, dumb
!dumb, dumb, dumb,
dumb, dumb, dumb
!dumb, dumb, dumb,
dumb, dumb, dumb!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kirk" <kvharmon54 at gmail.com>
To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Stand your ground and s2188

> Sherri, I will say once more, let's  wait before we make a judgement until
> we have "all" of the ffacts, not just some of them and with "spins" on
> them
> as well depending on  which media source is reporting it! KH
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Sherri" <flmom2006 at gmail.com>
> To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 2:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Stand your ground and s2188
>
>
> Jody, I'm not asking to do away with our constitutional rights. I'm just
> asking to do away with this stand-your-graound law or at least to make the
> requirements for its enforcement more definitive. I do not understand why
> Trayvon's killer was not arrested--why he is not being held responsible
> for
> his actions.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jody W. Ianuzzi" <jody at thewhitehats.com>
> To: "'NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List'" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 1:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Stand your ground and s2188
>
>
>> Hi Tara,
>>
>> I strongly disagree with your stand on gun control.  I am a member of the
>> NRA and I believe in our Second Amendment rights for responsible gun
>> owners
>> to carry a gun.
>>
>> The tragedy of the teen shooting was horrible and the shooter should be
>> prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law but the fact he had a gun
>> does
>> not make all gun owners evil.
>>
>> Should we revoke all drivers licenses because some drivers are wreckless
>> or
>> some drivers drive while drunk?  NO!
>>
>> The simple fact is that MOST gun owners are responsible and realize the
>> seriousness of their actions.
>>
>> When I was a kid all boys and most girls carried a pocket knife to school
>> but now that would be considered a major offense.
>>
>> It is not the gun or the knife or the car that is the problem it is the
>> rare
>> but tragic actions of an irresponsible person that is the problem.
>>
>> If our society succeeded in banning all guns, knives and other dangerous
>> weapons then irrational crazy people would use a stick, a rock or their
>> bare
>> hands to hurt other people.
>>
>> As for your cane incident, many years ago  there was a guy with a folded
>> cane in his back pucker who was stopped by a police officer for carry a
>> weapon and when the cop asked the guy what he had in his pocket the guy
>> thought he was being mugged.  He stood to defend himself and the cop beat
>> him up.  the cop's defense was the guy should have seen he was wearing a
>> uniform.  So are you going to ban cops too?
>>
>> So think twice before your misinformation guides you in restricting my
>> gun
>> ownership rights, they are one of the few things left in the Constitution
>> that hasn't been trashed.
>>
>> JODY
>>
>>
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