[Nfbf-l] do we really want hate and anger on our list?
Kirk
kvharmon54 at gmail.com
Sat Mar 24 19:09:24 UTC 2012
Craig, I worked our BV program feverishly in Florida for quite
awhile a few years back demoing and signing up many of them throughout our
state. I even had started to contact our state VA executives about getting a
grant not only for our senior blinded Veterans, but for our other disabled
Veterans as well. When Tom Hartig passed away the support for this effort
was no longer there! I at that time stopped the effort and have not been
active myself in the funding efforts for the service. I still have worked
on the help line for many, many years and have never stopped demoing it at
blind gatherings, whether they are formal ones or not. I still do much of
the "Welcome Letters" to our new subscribers folding, stuffing, and mailing
them to all. I love this service and the seniors that subscribe to it as
well! I have yet to go to a senior group to demo the service without
signing up each person or blind spouse attending it. This, to me, anyway,
is all the confirmation I need to realize this service is critical for a
better mental outlook which effect's their health in this positive way as
well as being more educated about their local communities makes them feel
that their blindness is not, as they had accepted it, for the most part, the
end of their full lifestyle. this new awareness of community, community,
state, national, and even international news so they can discuss all while
there out and about like the sighted seniors do on an even and aware
equality with them! I havve witnessed repeatedly how Newsline has gotten so
many out of their depression, and out of their recliners and after using
Newsline, ask what else is available for them and what else is available for
them or what else can they do! If nothing else, We need to realize that
Newsline is not only a source for news and information to all ages, but a it
is also a source to change peoples lives around and learn to embrace their
blindness in a positive and exciting way, rather than give up and fade away!
I would love to see a strong marketing effort be created and done for
Newsline Florida reaching out to the money people in our corporate
community's as well as small business, and our local politicians through one
on one demos of our service to them so they can see how this tool can change
the lives of our community's first hand. and more importantly, someone
willing to not only write grants , but to research all the possibility's for
them. When I first approached the Director of DBS Craig, I approached her
not as a Newsline supporter, but as a blinded Veteran State board member and
district director of the BVA/FRG and asking for her not to let down these
individuals that I just talked so strongly about! This is when she had told
me she wouldn't. I do no that she has had many different financial decisions
to make since our last talk, but I would love to see us bbe able to enjoy a
more liberal budget where we wouldn't have to rely on one source for our
survival! Now, let me compliment your organization that works hard to
raise funds for DBS. Just think if Newsline Florida were to submit a
request to help us to your orgnaization. Anything you could assist us with
would be that much less we would need to ask her for, right? LOL! You take
care! Your friend in the cause, Kirk
----- Original Message -----
From: "craig kiser" <sckiser55 at earthlink.net>
To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2012 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] do we really want hate and anger on our list?
She said it at our December 15 and March 15 board meetings. She
has also indicated to the Rehab Council they may not be able to
fund it. Notwithstanding budget cuts, the blind of Florida
should have some input into priorities of spending by DBS. In
addition, DBS is sitting on nearly $3,000,000 in the Gifts and
Donations Trust Fund. These donations were made to help the
blind, not to sit in an investment account. Access to newspapers
is too important to the blind to be shrugged off as a low
priority because of budget cuts. Were the Blinded Vets, NFBF or
FCB enlisted to help lobby during the session to maintain funding
of Newsline? Craig
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kirk" <kvharmon54 at gmail.com
To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 12:09:49 -0400
Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] do we really want hate and anger on our
list?
Craig, I have been a huge supporter of Newsline for many, many
years signing
up many of our seniors,
blind Veterans, and others through demo's etc. It would be a
great
dissapoiintment to our community to see this funding stopped. I
have talked
to Joyce Hildreth many times on this topic through the years and
she always
has supported this service for the most part. I know the DBS
budget has been
threatening our Newsline service for the last several years, but
she always
came through for us. Let's hope that this is not fact but just a
moment of
spontaneous reaction during a conversation! Your friend in the
cause, Kirk
----- Original Message -----
From: "craig kiser" <sckiser55 at earthlink.net
To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 11:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] do we really want hate and anger on our
list?
An excellent observation. We have serious issues here in Florida
regarding the blind which we need to address. For example, the
Director of Blind Services has stated she does not intend to
continue funding NFB Newsline. Hundreds of us use it daily and
they belong to both NFBF and FCB as well as Blinded Veterans. We
need to present a united front to preserve it. And that is only
one of the pressing issues. Craig
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sherrill O'Brien" <sherrill.obrien at verizon.net
To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 22:47:07 -0400
Subject: [Nfbf-l] do we really want hate and anger on our list?
Hello all,
Since Dan didn't change the subject line of his plea for civility
on this
list, writing under the subject line "forgive the Student Loan
Act of 2012,
perhaps some of you have not read his original post. Here it is
under my
signature. I'm not on the Board, but I'm a member of this list,
and I would
ask, on behalf of most on this list, that everyone respect this
public
forum, the good name of the National Federation of the "Blind,
and, as Dan
says, immediately stop this thread. This is an embarrassment to
this list
and the N
fB. Please realize everyone can see these posts, for years to
come. We ask
people to support us with their time and money, and then those
same people
read such hateful posts here? I know we're all passionate about
so many
issues, but hate filled posts only hurt us. Can't we put this
passion and
energy toward issues that matter to blind children, seniors,
veterans, well
you get my point. Certainly we all pray that justice is done in
the Trayvon
Martin case. But let's take a deep breath and get back to the
serious task
of improving quality of life for the blind of Florida.
In the Federation spirit,
Sherrill
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:nfbf-l-bounces at nfbnet.org]On
Behalf Of Dan Hicks
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 6:20 PM
To: 'NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List'; 'Bob Wayne'; 'William
Maguire'; 'Stephen Brown'; 'Denise Bryant'; 'Charlie Stratmann';
'Ron
Radford'; 'Maury Keiser'; 'john_mountcastle'; 'Mark Goldman';
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Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Fw: Support the Student Loan Forgiveness
Act of
2012
Okay, Kirk, Tara, and everyone else--
This discussion and all political discussions -- liberal,
conservative, tea
party, etc. -- are not for the NFBF-L list, or, for that matter,
any other
NFB list that I know of. . Also, we have a strict rule against
personal
attacks, and recent comments have crossed this line. so no more.
Nobody loves a good political argument more than I, but noT on
the NFB
lists. If you want to argue online and in public, take it to
Facebook or to
some other non-NFB e-mail list where such discussions are allowed
or, maybe
even encouraged.
This thread ends now.
Dan Hicks, Moderator
NFBF-L
"It's a shallow life that doesn't give a person a few scars."
-Garrison
Keillor
-----Original Message-----
From: nfbf-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:nfbf-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Jane Karp
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 6:06 PM
To: Bob Wayne; William Maguire; Stephen Brown; Denise Bryant;
Charlie
Stratmann; Ron Radford; Maury Keiser; john_mountcastle; Mark
Goldman;
William Proctor; rik.erkelens at gmail.com; H. Manford;
leoladyjane at gmail.com;
Dwight Sayer; James Conomea; Heather Andrews; Michael P Fleming;
Howard
McGillin; John Mountcastle; Harry Metz; Greg Moore; Joe
McDermott; AJ
Sartin; Owl Goingback; Michael Rothfeld;
seawolfetackle at comcast.net; Chris
Macmillan; George April; Jim Miller; Rick A Rees;
renegade1 at bellsouth.net;
2papajack at bellsouth.net; gstocking at bellsouth.net; Bill Dudley;
John Wolf;
ckastle at staugustinelighthouse.org; George Gardner; Ron Birchall;
Ron Berry;
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Palmer;
Dancing Lady; Meredith Beckhardt; Mike Gunde - BB; James Burts;
Susan Voss;
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Kim.Charlson at Perkins.org
Subject: [Nfbf-l] Fw: Support the Student Loan Forgiveness Act of
2012
----- Forwarded Message -----
From: DOREEN CONWELL <llewnoc at hotmail.com
To: Jennifer Conwell <jenabun at gmail.com>; Joyce Jones
<mumpsy54 at yahoo.com>;
WILLIE & JOYCE JONES <chewchew1942 at yahoo.com>; Jane Karp
<leolady at bellsouth.net>; GLO <rf-gf at clearwire.net
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 9:21 PM
Subject: Support the Student Loan Forgiveness Act of 2012
Hi,
I signed a petition to Rep. John Kline $MN-2$, The United States
House of
Representatives, and 2 others which says:
"Total outstanding student loan debt in America is expected to
exceed $1
TRILLION this year. Millions of hardworking, taxpaying, educated
Americans
are being crushed under the weight of their educational debts,
while the
economy continues to sputter. Support a REAL economic stimulus
and jobs
plan. Support the Student Loan Forgiveness Act of 2012 $H.R.
4170$."
Will you sign this petition? Click here:
http://signon.org/sign/support-the-student-loan?source=s.em.mt&r_
by=3822474
Thanks!
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