[Nfbf-l] Be part of the World!

Sat Mar 24 20:17:19 UTC 2012

Matt:

Regarding computers and the Internet, yes the web has become more and more a 
part of our lives.  However, to say that that is a person's choice not to 
have a computer is something you might want to think a little more about. 
Although the price of a good desktop has certainly come down, not everyone 
can afford one.  When I worked for the federal government a number of years 
ago, there were actually people I spoke with who did not have, and could not 
afford a computer.  This is probably especially true in the blind community 
with the extremely high unemployment rate we have.  And once you get the 
computer, some of the speech programs are quite expensive and no, not 
everyone has a rehab counselor who is going to provide funding for a program 
like JAWS.  These are things to consider before saying that someone not 
keeping up with the world by having a computer is their choice.  Just some 
thoughts.  And I happen to work with and know highly educated, bright people 
who use Newsline all the time and think it is wonderful, and with good 
reason.

Mark Tardif
Welcome to my planet
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Matt Roberts" <blindbikernfb at cfl.rr.com>
To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2012 1:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Be part of the World!

> The Orlando Sentinel is garbage on Newsline.  You might as well read the 
> stuff on-line, because that is what they're doing.  They just copy the 
> articles from teh internet, adn include the garbage.It's a total waste of 
> time for me.  If I want news for Orlando, I can turn on my TV.  I want to 
> know what's happening in my local area, and I can't depend on Newsline for 
> that.  IF I want TV listings, I must use my iPhone, because the TV 
> listings in my area are not complete, and haven't been for months. 
> Channel 24 is not public TV anymore, and channel 68 isn't even listed.
> IF you want information on this, without a computer, you are out of luck.
> This probably won't be fixed, so I'll just have to use my satellite TV 
> guide to know what's on 68, if I want to know.
> IF you like living on your telephone just to read the paper, fine, but I 
> don't.  I want access to news where i want and when I want.  Newsline 
> doesn't give me that option without a computer!
> IF people need this service, let them pay for it! Sighted people pay for 
> their newspapers, and we should too!
>
> --
> Matt Roberts
>
> ---- Tara Prakash <taraprakash at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Matt.
>>
>> I am a fan of iPhone and other i devices but I still use Newsline in
>> addition to getting my news from the apple devices. It makes reading news 
>> so
>> much easier. It depends on how much in depth news you want. In addition 
>> to
>> hundreds of magazines and newspapers every week, we have Employment, 
>> Target,
>> and tv listings. A lot of our fellows don't  still use computers or don't
>> have internet, getting news on your landline and cell phone is an option. 
>> If
>> I have to read Orlando Sentinel, I use my phone. The electronic version 
>> of
>> it couldn't improve, I tried a bit for it. I am sure more nees to be done 
>> in
>> Florida to improve Newsline popularity but national newspapers and 
>> magazines
>> are very well delivered.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Matt Roberts" <blindbikernfb at cfl.rr.com>
>> To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2012 8:44 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Be part of the World!
>>
>>
>> > In Volusia county, Newsline is a joke.  Why should I advocate for it? I 
>> > am
>> > signed up, but all it si good for is TV listings.  I can get that
>> > information other ways now, and since I have Apple TV, I can always get 
>> > TV
>> > that way.
>> > We need to focus on other things besides this outdated stuff.  How 
>> > about
>> > better access to web pages such as NHL.com? How about more access to
>> > things everyone else uses?
>> >
>> > Matt Roberts
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPad
>> >
>> > On Mar 23, 2012, at 11:21 PM, craig kiser <sckiser55 at earthlink.net> 
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> An excellent observation.  We have serious issues here in Florida
>> >> regarding the blind which we need to address.  For example, the 
>> >> Director
>> >> of Blind Services has stated she does not intend to continue funding 
>> >> NFB
>> >> Newsline.  Hundreds of us use it daily and they belong to both NFBF 
>> >> and
>> >> FCB as well as Blinded Veterans.  We need to present a united front to
>> >> preserve it.  And that is only one of the pressing issues.  Craig
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Sherrill O'Brien" <sherrill.obrien at verizon.net
>> >> To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org
>> >> Date sent: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 22:47:07 -0400
>> >> Subject: [Nfbf-l] do we really want hate and anger on our list?
>> >>
>> >> Hello all,
>> >>
>> >> Since Dan didn't change the subject line of his plea for civility on 
>> >> this
>> >> list, writing under the subject line "forgive the Student Loan Act of
>> >> 2012,
>> >> perhaps some of you have not read his original post.  Here it is under 
>> >> my
>> >> signature.  I'm not on the Board, but I'm a member of this list, and I
>> >> would
>> >> ask, on behalf of most on this list, that everyone respect this public
>> >> forum, the good name of the National Federation of the "Blind, and, as
>> >> Dan
>> >> says, immediately stop this thread.  This is an embarrassment to this
>> >> list
>> >> and the N
>> >> fB.  Please realize everyone can see these posts, for years to come. 
>> >> We
>> >> ask
>> >> people to support us with their time and money, and then those same
>> >> people
>> >> read such hateful posts here? I know we're all passionate about so 
>> >> many
>> >> issues, but hate filled posts only hurt us.  Can't we put this passion
>> >> and
>> >
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