[Nfbf-l] Subject: Re: Important: Submitted for your Approval —ProposedConstitutional Amendment.

Fri May 25 04:10:50 UTC 2012

I know of many who belong toboth organizations.
It is about the mission statement.  It is about one community.  I could 
name many of those in both organizations and some who have been chairs 
in NFB.   I believe there is more strength in joint efforts.  And there 
are wonderful people in both organizations!
Cathy-Alice

Original message:
> Hi David.

> Actually there are some folks that are already working together on 
> certain issues from both organizations. You are correct in your 
> statement that both organizations do have a very similar goal, however, 
> there are some folks that feel we can work together, and some that feel 
> we can't. .  This is true to a certain degree. As someone already 
> stated, its kind of like your either a Republican or Democrat. You 
> can't be both. Having said that, there have been certain issues where 
> we have worked together, but some where we were on total opposite ends 
> of the spectrum. I personally feel that we should try and work together 
> as much as we can as both organizations really do have something in 
> common which is blindness.

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Clarke <dbclarke99 at gmail.com>
> To: NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>,
> Date: Thursday, May 24, 2012 03:07:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Important: Submitted for your Approval 
> —ProposedConstitutional Amendment.

>> Dear Mr. Evens,

>> I absolutely agree that the organizations (in fact, any on the list) have
>> the right to set their own rules (as long as in writing and voted on by the
>> membership).  I just question the wisdom, since the goals of the
>> organizations are really similar.    Maybe some day I can convince people
>> involved in the Bl/Visually impaired community to get together... or at
>> least work together.

>> Dave

>> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 2:36 PM, David Evans <drevans at bellsouth.net> wrote:

>>> Dear Mr.Clark,

>>> These other organizations have nothing to do with the NFB or ACB.
>>> As a private membership organization, the NFB as well as the ACB, have the
>>> right to place restrictions upon their membership, as do other
>>> organizations, such as the Lion's, J.C.'s, Masons, etc, etc.
>>> You will not find Democrats holding office in the Republican party and
>>> vicea versa.
>>> They have opposing philosophy and approaches to just about everything.
>>>  The same holds with the NFB and the ACB.
>>> The two organizations just do not see eye to eye or agree on a lot of
>>> things, logic not withstanding.
>>> By the way, its a nice list and I think I will save in a flolder,

>>> Thanks,.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Clarke" <dbclarke99 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 10:19 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Important: Submitted for your Approval
>>> —ProposedConstitutional Amendment.

>>> ar
>>>>> "As per policy, no member of the ACB can hold office or be a committee
>>>>> chair in the NFB at any level.  They can be a rank and file member, but
>>>>> as
>>>>> long as they are a ACB member, they can not hold an office."

>>> ar
>>> ar  I am constantly confused by this reasoning and the "us vs them"
>>>>> mentality.
>>>>>  Has nothing changed since the 1960s?

>>> ar
>>> ar
>>> ar Below is a partial list of the organizations in the United States that
>>> ar service the Blind and visually-impaired  (I have left
>>> ar out ophthalmology organizations and removed Canadian Organizations).
>>> ar
>>> ar American Council of the Blind
>>> ar
>>> ar American Foundation for the Blind
>>> ar
>>> ar American Macular Degeneration Foundation
>>> ar
>>> ar American Printing House for the Blind
>>> ar
>>> ar Association for Education and Rehabilitation of the Blind and Visually
>>> ar Impaired
>>> ar
>>> ar The Association for Research in Vision and Ophthalomology
>>> ar
>>> ar Blind Veterans Association
>>> ar
>>> ar ElderWeb (National Resources for Seniors)
>>> ar
>>> ar EyeCare America — National Eye Care Project (For Seniors)
>>> ar
>>> ar Foundation Fighting Blindness
>>> ar
>>> ar Foundation For Blind Children
>>> ar
>>> ar Guide Dog Foundation for the Blind, Inc.
>>> ar
>>> ar Helen Keller National Center for Deaf-Blind Youth and Adults
>>> ar
>>> ar Jewish Braille Institute of America
>>> ar
>>> ar Jewish Guild For The Blind
>>> ar
>>> ar Lighthouse Central Florida
>>> ar
>>> ar The Macula Foundation, Inc.
>>> ar
>>> ar Macular Degeneration Foundation
>>> ar
>>> ar Macular Degeneration Partnership
>>> ar
>>> ar Macular Degeneration Research
>>> ar
>>> ar Macular Degeneration Support
>>> ar
>>> ar National Alliance of Blind Students
>>> ar
>>> ar National Association for Parents of Children with Visual Impairments
>>> ar
>>> ar National Association For Visually Handicapped
>>> ar
>>> ar National Eye Institute
>>> ar
>>> ar National Federation of the Blind
>>> ar
>>> ar National Industries for the Blind
>>> ar
>>> ar The National Information Center for Children and Youth with Disabilities
>>> ar (NICHY)
>>> ar
>>> ar National Institute on Disability and Rehabilitation Research
>>> ar
>>> ar National Organization for Rare Disorders
>>> ar
>>> ar Northwest Association for Blind Athletes
>>> ar
>>> ar Ocular Nutrition Society
>>> ar
>>> ar Pilot Dogs, Inc.
>>> ar
>>> ar Prevent Blindness America
>>> ar
>>> ar Recording for the Blind and Dyslexic
>>> ar
>>> ar Research to Prevent Blindness
>>> ar
>>> ar The Seeing Eye, Inc.
>>> ar
>>> ar The Statler Center
>>> ar
>>> ar United States Association of Blind Athletes
>>> ar
>>> ar Can someone name any OTHER of these organizations prohibiting boards on
>>> ar two
>>> ar of these organizations, other than ACB(FCB) and NFB(NFBF)?   This list
>>> ar doesn't even include Lions, for some reason.
>>> ar
>>> ar Again, this "us vs them" attitude in an age where the blind and
>>> ar visually-impaired could use a lot of help baffles me.  There is no choice
>>> ar of loyalty involved.
>>> ar
>>> ar Dave Clarke
>>> ar
>>> ar
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