[Nfbf-l] 2012-04 Dining in the Dark Resolution Info

Patricia A. Lipovsky plipovsky at cfl.rr.com
Mon Sep 17 16:15:41 UTC 2012


Thanks Mark.
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From: "Mark Tardif" <markspark at roadrunner.com>
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Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 12:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] 2012-04 Dining in the Dark Resolution Info


> Hello, Patricia,
>
> It seems to me that your "two cents" are worth a lot more than that and 
> that your opinion is quite reasonable and valid.  I think the areas where 
> I have a problem have to do with the idea that there are some 
> misconceptions, one of which is that experiencing blindness for the first 
> time is somehow like being a normal, functioning blind person, and using 
> that as a means of fundraising.  I can tell you from experiences I had at 
> summer camp, when we had what were referred to as campers' days, during 
> which counselors and other staff were blind folded that this simply isn't 
> accurate.  I played the camp nurse one such day, and the actual nurse was 
> blind folded, and at times absolutely terrified, and I had to calm her 
> down.  I suppose I'm exagerating somewhat, but the point is that this 
> experience for her was nothing like the way I, as a functioning teenager, 
> saw the world.  I think if people are fundraising for and with blind 
> people, it would be more helpful for them to actually talk with blind 
> people, and better yet, attend NFB or ACB meetings, and find out from real 
> blind people what blindness is all about.  Again, just my two cents.  LOL.
>
> Mark Tardif
> Nuclear arms will not hold you.
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Patricia A. Lipovsky
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 8:24 AM
> To: NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] 2012-04 Dining in the Dark Resolution Info
>
> Hello.
>
> This probably won't set right with most, but I'm sorry, but I don't quite
> see it that way.  In my opinion, this has nothing to do with ability, but
> more for someone to experience what it is like to do something without
> vision.  Its kind of like being pushed in a wheel chair to experience not
> being able to walk.  The more we can get the general public to understand
> disabilities, the better, thus being able to move forward with our needs
> concerning legislation etc., etc..
>
> Just my two sense.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mark Tardif" <markspark at roadrunner.com>
> To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 10:42 AM
> Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] 2012-04 Dining in the Dark Resolution Info
>
>
>> Hello, Lenora.  I was one of the ones not aware of this resolution.  I 
>> think, however, that it is a good one.  Obviously, promoters of this kind 
>> of activity have major stereotypes about blindness and the abilities of 
>> blind people.  For example, the idea that blind people cannot cook for 
>> large numbers of people, and the idea that somehow blind people must have 
>> a hard time with their table manners, because we cannot see when or if a 
>> piece of food ends up on the table.  I could go on and on.  I think maybe 
>> the worst of these misconceptions is that eating in darkness for the 
>> first time ever, is somehow like blindness for someone who has lived it 
>> for many years.  In fact, those of us who have been blind for many years 
>> no better. But the worst thing by far, is these promoters, who probably 
>> have never talked with a real blind person, shamefully use this approach 
>> to get people to feel sorry for blind people and therefore provide funds 
>> for their agencies.  That is unethical and atrocious!!!
>>
>>
>>
>> Mark Tardif
>> Nuclear arms will not hold you.
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Lenora J. Marten
>> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 5:58 AM
>> To: nfbf-l at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [Nfbf-l] 2012-04 Dining in the Dark Resolution Info
>>
>>
>> Hey everyone,
>>
>> For those who are not aware, NFB passed a resolution at National 
>> Convention in Dallas that condemns the
>> practice of Dining in the Dark.
>> You will find a copy/paste of the resolution below.
>>
>>
>> Resolution 2012-04
>> Regarding Dining in the Dark
>>
>>
>>            WHEREAS, the real problem of blindness is not the loss of 
>> eyesight but the widespread public misconception that the blind are not 
>> equal to the sighted in society; and
>>
>>            WHEREAS, the National Federation of the Blind categorically 
>> rejects the myth that the blind are not equal to the sighted; and
>>
>>            WHEREAS, programs of the National Federation of the Blind 
>> teach and promote a positive understanding of blindness, that the blind 
>> are normal and equal members of society, and that blindness does not mean 
>> inferiority; and
>>
>>            WHEREAS, an activity known as "dining in the dark" is being 
>> promoted and used to raise funds by having sighted people experience 
>> blindness by eating in the dark; and
>>
>>            WHEREAS, an article published in Time magazine entitled 
>> “Dining in the Dark” assures would-be diners that the cook “works in a 
>> well-lit kitchen”; and
>>
>>            WHEREAS, the Dining in the Dark 
>> website--www.dininginthedark.org--states: “you will pick from a specially 
>> prepared menu (designed by a sighted local ‘star’ chef)” and "In darkness 
>> everyone becomes equal. Our opinions can't be molded by dress, 
>> mannerisms, or makeup as none of it can be seen.  You learn that without 
>> sight your other senses become more acute”; and
>>
>>            WHEREAS, these statements lay bare the underlying philosophy 
>> of dining in the dark, that sight means superior ability, and that, when 
>> sight is removed in the dark, the blind and the sighted are equal: Now, 
>> therefore,
>>
>>            BE IT RESOLVED by the National Federation of the Blind in 
>> Convention assembled this fourth day of July, 2012,  in the city of 
>> Dallas, Texas, that this organization condemn and deplore the use of 
>> dining in the dark in a manner that diminishes the innate normality and 
>> equal status of the blind in society; and
>>
>>            BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that this organization pursue an active 
>> policy of opposition to dining in the dark activities and events, 
>> including use of media and public protests, whenever and wherever such 
>> activities and events exploit blindness and blind people based on a 
>> demeaning philosophy.
>>
>>
>>
>> Lenora J. Marten
>> NFB-Florida Secretary
>> FOPBC President
>> NFB-Jax Chapter Secretary
>> bluegolfshoes at aol.com
>> 904-777-5976 / 904-229-9554
>>
>>
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