[Nfbf-l] NFBF 2014 Cruisevention Cancelled

Sat Apr 13 19:48:59 UTC 2013

I'm in total agreement with you Peter.  I can only guess that somebody didn't exercise due diligence before this whole thing got going.  Enough said, it is what it is---or was.
Tom 

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 From: Peter Donahue <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com>
To: NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org> 
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] NFBF 2014 Cruisevention Cancelled

Good afternoon everyone,

    Considering her attempts to research travel itineraries and vendor 
policies I'm surprised Cheryl wasn't aware of these rules. If this 
information was known other decisions could have been made concerning the 
cruisevention. I'll commend you guys for thinking outside of the box as to 
where to hold your state conventions.

Peter Donahue

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Holly" <hbeanie at gmail.com>
To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
Cc: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 8:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] NFBF 2014 Cruisevention Cancelled

We found out about these rules when people tried to book or were interested 
in booking a cabin.
Holly

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 13, 2013, at 8:01 AM, "Joe and Kitty King" <joenkitty at earthlink.net> 
wrote:

> Thanks, Holly, for clearing up info about cruise.
>
> Kitty
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Holly" <hbeanie at gmail.com>
> To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 6:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] NFBF 2014 Cruisevention Cancelled
>
>
>> Ok, we were not told of restrictions prior to deciding to do the cruise. 
>> Here goes, children under 6 months cannot go on the cruise, children 
>> under the age of three are not allowed in the childcare facilities on 
>> board the ship, children who are not fully potty trained cannot go into 
>> pools, period even with the swim diapers on. College students between 
>> 18-21 much have someone over 25 to be responsible for them.
>> Once these issues came up and the truth came out, we realize that this 
>> affects our parents with small children both sighted and blind, our blind 
>> children who aren't always potty trained by the age of 3 and our college 
>> students.
>> The board decided that since this cruise eliminated some of our members 
>> from bring able to attend and since we did not have as much support from 
>> our membership, it would be best to cancel the cruise and start looking 
>> for a hotel and chapter to host our 2014 convention.
>> I hope this sheds some light on the matter for each of you.
>> Respectfully,
>> Holly
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 12, 2013, at 6:02 PM, "Bill Kociaba" <williamkociaba at comcast.net> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> the only age restriction for cruising is that an infent must be at least 
>>> six
>>> months old by the date of sailing.  That is etched in stone but 
>>> otherwise
>>> there is no max age restriction. Different cruise lines have different 
>>> rules
>>> about the minaum age of the oldest in a cabin unless Mom and dad are 
>>> next
>>> door or right across the hall. For example on carnival if both in the 
>>> cabin
>>> are not over 21 then one must be at least 25.
>>> Not sure if there are any issues like that with NCL but again if mom is 
>>> next
>>> door or directly across the hall its a mute point
>>> Bill
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Nfbf-l [mailto:nfbf-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Joe and 
>>> Kitty
>>> King
>>> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 3:46 PM
>>> To: NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] NFBF 2014 Cruisevention Cancelled
>>>
>>> Dan:
>>> What are the rules regarding the age of adults and children?  Just
>>> interested.  Joe and I had not yet signed up because of ongoing medical
>>> tests needed to be resolved before making a long-term commitment.
>>>
>>> Concerning the Cruise Raffle Tickets - For what amount is the cruise
>>> coverage and for how many  days ? I am assuming the winner selects his 
>>> own
>>> /her cruise line preference.
>>>
>>> Kitty
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Dan Hicks" <danjhicks at yahoo.com>
>>> To: <NFBF-Leaders at yahoogroups.com>; "NFBF-L Listserv" 
>>> <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:53 PM
>>> Subject: [Nfbf-l] NFBF 2014 Cruisevention Cancelled
>>>
>>>
>>>> Fellow Convention Enthusiasts,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In spite of the best efforts of members of the NFBF Board, many members 
>>>> of
>>>> the NFBF, and Echevarria Travel, it appears that we will not be able to
>>>> proceed with the our plans to hold the 2014 Convention of the National
>>>> Federation of the Blind of Florida aboard a cruise ship. I regret 
>>>> having
>>>> to
>>>> say this, but we just have not been able to generate anything like the
>>>> kind
>>>> of support from our membership to make this event a success. Also, we 
>>>> have
>>>> learned that rules imposed on potential cruise participants by the
>>>> cruiseline would mean that we would have to exclude some of our 
>>>> members,
>>>> because of their ages or that of their children.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you booked a cabin with Norwegian Cruiselines through Echevarria 
>>>> Travel
>>>> and wish to cancel, you will need to contact Cheryl Echevarria at
>>>> reservations at echevarriatravel.com for a refund. If you wish to still 
>>>> take
>>>> the cruise as scheduled February 7 thru 10, 2014, by all means, keep
>>>> paying
>>>> your fees and enjoy a wonderful vacation at sea. The only difference 
>>>> will
>>>> be
>>>> that it will not be an NFBF Convention. The dates and location of the 
>>>> 2014
>>>> NFBF Convention, which will be held on land, will be forthcoming at a
>>>> later
>>>> date.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Don't forget to make your plans now to attend the 2013 NFBF Convention 
>>>> in
>>>> St. Petersburg. More information is at:
>>>> http://www.nfbflorida.org/upcoming/convention-2013.htm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you all for your support.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dan Hicks, President
>>>>
>>>> National Federation of the Blind of Florida
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
>>>> pause
>>>> and reflect."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Mark Twain
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
>>>> pause
>>>> and reflect."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Mark Twain
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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