[Nfbf-l] Fw: [fcb-l] Fwd: Scared Publixcustomerspraysseeing-eyedog with bleach

Tue May 28 02:32:49 UTC 2013

It was a very nice convention. Lots of fun things to do and people to see. 
Made a few new friends too. Take care and I hope you had a happy Memorial 
Day as well.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kirk Harmon" <kvharmon54 at gmail.com>
To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
Cc: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Fw: [fcb-l] Fwd: Scared 
Publixcustomerspraysseeing-eyedog with bleach

As did I Sherry, But I was hoping that it wouldn't escalate into pretty much 
what it did! I just thought that was such a unique situation that it didn't 
even slightly suggest that most cited people are like that towards our guide 
dog animals and should've been exported as such. I wish you a happy memorial 
day weekend and enjoy the convention and also the scholarship event later 
on! LOL! The good, The bad, And then there is me... Ha Ha!

Sent from my iPhone

On May 24, 2013, at 11:38 PM, "Sherri" <flmom2006 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Kirk, a very well-thought-out message. I do agree, but I do understand
> Mark's initial reaction as well.
>
> Have a good weekend.
>
> From Sherri at the NFBF convention original Message ----- 
> From: "Kirk Harmon" <kvharmon54 at gmail.com>
> To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 10:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Fw: [fcb-l] Fwd: Scared Publix
> customerspraysseeing-eyedog with bleach
>
>
> Well Mark I believe that if it were not coming across there would be a lot
> more abuses towards us by the side of community and what we have 
> currently!
> I believe, Unfortunately, That the human race itself has a lot nasty 
> people
> in it and that will always be as cited against site did blind against 
> blind
> or vice versa race against race religion against religion proves this
> without doubt, So for us to jump on an isolated incident that isn't that
> common I think is not in my opinion the way to go with this time! What did
> they say Mark, You can get more with honey than you can with vinegar? You
> take care of yourself my friend until then, Kirk
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 23, 2013, at 10:31 AM, "Mark Tardif" <markspark at roadrunner.com>
> wrote:
>
>> No problem.  And I hope you are right about the message coming across.
>>
>>
>>
>> Mark Tardif
>> Nuclear arms will not hold you.
>> -----Original Message----- From: Kirk Harmon
>> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 10:25 AM
>> To: NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List
>> Cc: NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Fw: [fcb-l] Fwd: Scared Publix customer
>> spraysseeing-eyedog with bleach
>>
>> Mark, If you consider how often something of this nature happens where
>> dogs are threatened with bodily harm by it cited individual I would have
>> to assume it is very very rear! And to compound it with a mentally ill
>> individual there is no need to worry about the lack of concern or are
>> getting the word out because overall I believe that decided people 
>> respect
>> our guide dogs in our changes as the other gentleman's stated yesterday 
>> he
>> has lived both sides of the coin as have I passed the 17 years I have 
>> been
>> blind prior to that I have for vision and I live in both worlds and there
>> are evil people in the society community that hurt evil people I mean
>> excuse me good people in the side of community that does not reflect
>> disrespect for any and all sighted people as well correct? I would like 
>> to
>> consider this an isolated incident that has unique circumstances involved
>> and it should not be blown out of proportion or a holler and scream for
>> more action because I think our point is well taken in the majority
>> population of decided community.
>> Just one man's opinion Mark and from a friend as well! And again please
>> excuse my Dragon software as I'm on my iPhone and it doesn't always
>> cooperate! LOL!
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 23, 2013, at 10:09 AM, "Mark Tardif" <markspark at roadrunner.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Absolutely. I agree, she desperately needs help, and I do apologize for
>>> the rough way in which I treated this subject upon first reading the
>>> article.  I know she needs compassion as much as anybody.  But still, 
>>> her
>>> reaction was inexcusable.  Professionals will tell you that most people
>>> with mental illness, especially when they are using their meds properly
>>> and have some sort of support system, are no more violent than the 
>>> public
>>> in general, and having worked with people with mental illness for a
>>> number of years, I would certainly agree with that.  What this woman did
>>> was attack a living being, and I hate to bring religion into it but, in
>>> my view, one of God's creatures who was not in the least threatening her
>>> with harm.  Not only that, she was the threat here, threatening a blind
>>> person's means of mobility.  And then she had the nerve to mildly say 
>>> she
>>> guessed she was "overreacting."  That doesn't begin to describe what she
>>> was doing, assault is more like it. Sometimes it is extremely
>>> disappointing when I see how little progress we really have made as
>>> exemplified by this reprehensible behavior.
>>>
>>> Mark Tardif
>>> Nuclear arms will not hold you.
>>> -----Original Message----- From: john schwery
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 6:52 AM
>>> To: NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Fw: [fcb-l] Fwd: Scared Publix customer sprays
>>> seeing-eyedog with bleach
>>>
>>> Kir, I don't agree.  I don't think mental illness is an excuse for
>>> what this lady did and she should be held responsible.  Spraying the
>>> dog was wrong and using store to do it was wrong.  Yes, she needs
>>> help but she is still responsible for her actions.
>>>
>>> earlier, Kirk Harmon, wrote:
>>>> Sherry, This is sad on both sides of the situation. The poor puppy
>>>> could've been blinded as well what a shame however this older woman as
>>>> obviously got some serious mental issues if what she states is accurate
>>>> so how can we blame this lady's bad behavior or irrational behavior 
>>>> when
>>>> she's mentally ill as she states . I don't believe we can as I also 
>>>> feel
>>>> this is an isolated and unique situation that I don't think any sane
>>>> person would have done so like I say this is sad I'm both sides of this
>>>> unique situation thank God the puppies doing better and I hope this 
>>>> lady
>>>> gets the help that she needs! Kirk
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On May 22, 2013, at 6:33 PM, "Sherri" <flmom2006 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This is really sad. The person who owns the dog spoke at our
>>>> convention last
>>>>> year. She works for United Way in South Florida. Interesting!
>>>>>
>>>>> Sherri
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Easy Talk
>>>>> To: Donald Moore ; 'Patricia A. Lipovsky' ; 'Jason Goldfield' ; 'Ice >
>>>>>> Wanda'
>>>>> Cc: 'Michael Golder' ; fcb-l at acb.org
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 3:54 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [fcb-l] Fwd: Scared Publix customer sprays seeing-eyedog
>>>>> withbleach
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> here is the article
>>>>> Scared Publix customer sprays seeing-eye dog with bleach
>>>>> Sunrise resident cited for animal cruelty
>>>>> A seeing-eye dog had bleach squirted in its eyes at a Publix grocery >
>>>>>> store
>>>>> when a
>>>>> 67-year-old woman intentionally sprayed the animal in an
>>>> unprovoked attack,
>>>>> a police
>>>>> report says.
>>>>> The 5-year-old yellow Labrador retriever appeared uninjured, the
>>>>> report
>>>>> said, but
>>>>> Patricia Lawler, of Sunrise, was cited for animal cruelty and
>>>> given a notice
>>>>> to appear
>>>>> after the 4:15 p.m. Saturday incident at the store at 10155 W.
>>>> Oakland Park
>>>>> Blvd.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lawler told police she "thought it was a vicious animal" and
>>>> feared it would
>>>>> be a
>>>>> danger to other customers, so she grabbed a spray bottle of Clorox > >
>>>>> cleaner
>>>>> off a
>>>>> shelf and sprayed the animal in the eyes and back.
>>>>> "I realize now it was a mistake," Lawler said when reached by
>>>>> telephone
>>>>> Monday. "I
>>>>> have a fear of dogs. It was just a big dog with a big head. I was just
>>>>> afraid."
>>>>> Lawler said she takes medication for schizoaffective disorder,
>>>> and paranoia
>>>>> is one
>>>>> the symptoms associated with her mental illness.
>>>>> The dog's owner, Ronda Carin Shore, 45, also of Sunrise, told police >
>>>>> she > is
>>>>> blind
>>>>> and keeps the canine with her at all times. It was wearing a >
>>>>> service-dog
>>>>> vest, an
>>>>> assist handle and a placard, the report said.
>>>>> Shore declined to comment Monday.
>>>>> Although the dog wasn't exhibiting aggressive behavior, Lawler
>>>> said she got
>>>>> scared
>>>>> when she saw it and asked Shore to leave the store with the dog. When
>>>>>>> that
>>>>> didn't
>>>>> produce results, she said she resorted to the spray bleach to get
>>>> rid of the
>>>>> animal.
>>>>> "I was afraid the dog would go wild, or some small child would get > >
>>>>> bitten,
>>>>> or somebody
>>>>> would get hurt," Lawler said. "I guess I overreacted. But I still
>>>> feel like
>>>>> a dog
>>>>> doesn't belong in a place like a grocery store."
>>>>> If convicted of the first-degree misdemeanor, Lawler faces up to a
>>>>> year >  > in
>>>>> jail and/or
>>>>> a $5,000 fine.
>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
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