[Nfbf-l] {Disarmed} Re: [NFBF-Leaders] picking andchoosing NFB policies and constitutional requirements

Sun May 4 16:04:32 UTC 2014

The key word is respect and I would like to add value. I value all of you as 
NFB members and hopefully friends.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Judith Hamilton" <jrhamilton51 at earthlink.net>
To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2014 11:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] {Disarmed} Re: [NFBF-Leaders] picking andchoosing NFB 
policies and constitutional requirements

This was stated very well. I have had partial vision all my life due to ROP 
(a.k.a. RLF for those who are in that generation where I grew up). I also 
developed hearing loss in one of my ears seven years ago. I use a hearing 
aid that works some for sounds, but not understanding conversation. It is a 
daily challenge to orient to conversation direction and I do remember when I 
was younger this was something I did take for granted. So I am really not 
bothered by people who miss not driving after they have turned in their 
license. You are right, it is a grieving process. It does challenge me when 
folks have been diagnosed with a progressive vision loss and are asked by 
someone "are you still driving?" When the response is "yes" they are praised 
that they are still able to drive.
In our society, it is the ultimate freedom. Of course, with freedom comes 
responsibility and our society is not responsible. I hope that we can 
continue to discuss the issues that come up on this list,teleconference 
calls, or chapter/division meetings, and conventions. Change will come if we 
take an interest, act responsibly, and respect each other.
Best Regards,
Judy

-----Original Message-----
>From: Darlene Laibl-Crowe <dlaiblcrowe at att.net>
>Sent: May 2, 2014 9:25 AM
>To: 'NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List' <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
>Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] {Disarmed} Re: [NFBF-Leaders] picking and choosing 
>NFB policies and constitutional requirements
>
>Well said, Toni.  Why do you think we shouldn't say 'I miss driving.'?  I
>know how you feel, I miss driving, too.  And I don't have a problem
>admitting it.  Losing certain activities, abilities; we all have to go
>through the grieving process, just like when we lose someone we love.
>
>And it is a process...not something that goes away overnight.  Slowly as 
>the
>years go by, it gets easier but it doesn't go away.  I dream that I am
>driving...in those dreams, I am so afraid the cops are going to catch me
>without my driver's license.  I can see clearly and know where I am going.
>One time, I dreamed I was driving a semi, I have never driven one in my 
>life
>but I was up above the road so high I could see for miles.  We don't lose
>the ability to drive, just because we lost our eyesight or progressively
>losing it.
>
>However, I do have to say this, I had the opportunity to continue driving
>when I was first diagnosed with Retinitis Pigmentosa but I chose not to
>continue to drive because I am a very cautious person.  I had a five year
>son to think about, I was a single mother, working full time...I had to ask
>myself, would he be safe?  Would others on the road be safe?   Would I be
>safe if I continued to drive?  I didn't want to hurt anyone and I certainly
>didn't want to hurt myself.  Continuing to drive while having vision loss 
>is
>dangerous.  I didn't want to have to face myself after I had 
>unintentionally
>hurt someone because I refused to give up driving.  I don't think I could
>have done that...if you have a vision problem, what happens if a child
>accidentally runs out into the street chasing a ball?  Would you be able to
>see if if you have peripheral field loss?  Then there are those who have
>central vision loss or distorted vision and can only see a portion of the
>road, is it safe to drive when in that situation?  Common sense and logic
>would say 'no'; sometimes we have to let go in order to grow.
>
>That is my opinion.  And here is a thought, too,  I do have to admit that 
>if
>I had to choose being visual or being blind, I would choose visual.  This 
>is
>a visual world and it isn't easy to clearly understanding the visual
>information that is needed when you can't see it.  Plus having hearing
>problems on top of it, makes it even harder.  BUT, I choose to learn and do
>all I can to help myself, advocate to find the right resources for my
>specific needs and I share with others so they can grow, too.
>
>It is okay to say 'I don't like it", It is okay to say 'I miss driving'...,
>it is what you do about your situation  that counts.
>
>Stay strong and know that you are not alone!
>(smile)
>Darlene
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Nfbf-l [mailto:nfbf-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Toni King
>Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 8:36 AM
>To: nfbf-l at nfbnet.org
>Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] {Disarmed} Re: [NFBF-Leaders] picking and choosing 
>NFB
>policies and constitutional requirements
>
>Hi,
>Okay I am just catching this thread so only responding to Mr. Evans
>comments.
>I am assuming  it was said we should not say " I miss driving"
>I am a skilled well adjusted visually impaired person.  I do any thing I
>want to do and tell everyone there is nothing you can not do without sight.
>That being said there are still times I miss driving mostly when I am some
>where and want to leave like NOW!
>
>I miss seeing my grandson's faces.  Now these moments are fewer  and only
>pop up now and then, but they do cross my mind from time to time.
>This does not mean I am not accepting my loss of sight, nor does it mean I
>am still trying to live in the sighted world.
>
>Do you not miss a love one or friend who has passed on?  If you answered 
>yes
>then why would it be so strange to state you miss something you could do
>when you had sight?
>We have lost a part of us so missing it from time to time is a normal and
>natural feeling.
>
>I have heard people say those who were born without sight can not miss what
>they never had.  I am not sure I agree with that statement.  I know they 
>can
>grieve over not being able to drive, get their license when their friends
>did. Many times their not allowed to do what their friends or siblings are
>able to do.
>so instead of missing  doing something they experience a longing.
>
>The goal is to be well adjusted and to except  where we are and to learn 
>how
>to do anything we want sight or not.
>
>I am very pleased with my life and I have a full and active one.  My 
>moments
>of missing sight happen very very rarely now but to say this never happens
>or to not allow yourself  those brief moments is in my opinion not healthy.
>
>Just my two cents worth.
>Toni
>
>--
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>www.samobile.net/users/tkk/
>
>Security is mostly a superstition. It does not exist in nature.... Life is
>either a daring adventure or nothing.
>   Helen Keller, The Open Door (1957)
>
>Dogs are not our whole life, but they make our lives whole.
>-Roger Caras
>
>
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