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<DIV>I’m glad to do it, Camille. Maybe it will save other people time and
aggrivation. </DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=nfbf-l@nfbnet.org
href="mailto:nfbf-l@nfbnet.org">Camille Tate via NFBF-L</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, December 05, 2023 7:32 PM</DIV>
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<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=ctate2076@att.net
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NFBF-L] Voice Mail Box</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>I am late to this post, but thank you for the advice on this live voicemail
thing! I started having live transcription of voicemail as it is being left not
with this last recent update, but with the 17.1 update earlier. Thank you for
getting it figured out and sharing with all of us.</DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr>Sincerely,
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<DIV>Camille Tate</DIV>
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<DIV>President, Melbourne Space Coast Chapter , National Federation of the
Blind, FL</DIV>
<DIV>2nd Vice President, National Federation of the Blind, FL</DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">On Dec 5, 2023, at 6:55 PM, Debbie Hazelton via NFBF-L
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<DIV dir=ltr> Hey Mark, well it’s interesting and I still think that’s a
worthwhile thing to do though I think I’ve seen this bug regarding voicemail
longer than iOS 17 but anyway we shall see. Thanks for all this though because
it’s probably gonna help anyone who’s having a problem with that live
voicemail thing.
<DIV>Debbie <BR>
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<DIV>It looks like the problem has been solved. I just spoke for over
an hour with a technician at U.S. Cellular. It is possible that the
latest IOS update from last week turned on a feature called Live Voice Mail,
which can apparently override your voice mailbox. So you go to
settings, go to phone, double tap it, then go to Live Voice Mail.
Double tap on that, and you get a toggle that allows you to turn that
off. Turn it off. Then have someone call you and leave a
message, and your voice mailbox should work. It appears that nobody
except my last technician had ever heard of such a thing. Just my
opinion. So if anyone else gets this problem, this is what I would
suggest. </DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=nfbf-l@nfbnet.org
href="mailto:nfbf-l@nfbnet.org">Debbie Hazelton via NFBF-L</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, December 05, 2023 6:09 PM</DIV>
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never done any of that and I don’t remember my pin number. Lol I just always
use my own phone and do it so I don’t know. That’s interesting<BR
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<DIV>Another thing I have noticed is that I don’t appear to be able to
access my messages from another phone, even if I use my voice mail Pin
number. Even if I try to record a greeting, if I call from another
phone Seri overrides it and does its own greeting. I wonder what
would happen if I tried to delete the entire voice mail service and then
restart it, except I don’t know how to actually do that. This hardly
sounds like being more advanced. Just my
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href="mailto:nfbf-l@nfbnet.org">Debbie Hazelton via NFBF-L</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, December 05, 2023 4:47 PM</DIV>
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I think one of the things that makes this difficult is that it is
intermittent and they don’t know how to reproduce it because it doesn’t
happen that way all the time. There are some voicemails that I get right
away and then there are others that I don’t and I’ve even seen this with
email where I don’t see it And then I do a search or something and it’ll
show up and it’ll be in the middle of some others that I did see so I
don’t know how it’s hiding but yeah I just think it’s very hard to
reproduce but I know of people in other countries and With other
carriers that have gotten this so I really don’t believe it’s carrier
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">On Dec 5, 2023, at 3:42 PM, Mark Tardif via
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<DIV>Finally, someone who actually experienced this!!! At the risk
of sounding quite rough, I cannot believe that the people at Apple and
U.S. Cellular are totally unaware of this. What kind of techs do
they hire, anyway? Sorry, but these technology issues can
sometimes make me wonder if we have really advanced at all in that
area. </DIV>
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, December 05, 2023 3:17 PM</DIV>
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Mark, I was told that this is a bug, and never heard it to be a carrier
issue. I believe there are people who experience this no matter which
carrier they are with. My experiences that it will show me no mail and
then maybe an hour or two later it will show me that indeed there is
mail. I have not yet tried but think I will try clearing phone out of
the app switcher to see if that helps maybe for it to refresh. It is odd
but I have kind of gotten used to it and I know not to trust it when it
says there is nothing there and surely enough I will see it. it is
surprising that no one knows how to reproduce it though because I have
known for this to be a bug with all their number of people I don’t know
maybe for a year or so. Maybe others will weigh in.
<DIV>All best,</DIV>
<DIV>Debbie Hazelton <BR>
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<DIV>This is specifically for anyone using an I Phone with Useless, I
mean U.S. Cellular. Alright, I’ll try to be nice, LOL. And
I will make this as short as possible. Has anybody experienced a
situation in which you dial in your voice mailbox and get told there
are no messages, even though you know someone called you and left a
message? I went to our local U.S. Cellular store this morning
and the technician had never seen anything like that. I called
Apple, and they say it’s a carrier issue. I spoke on the phone
with who knows how many people at U.S. Cellular who tried all kinds of
things, some of which I had already tried, but they really couldn’t
help. Obviously I am going to need to learn to use the phone app
to retrieve voice mail messages, and I am working on that, but It
would be nice to still have this option. Thank you in advance
for any assistance. </DIV>
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