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<DIV>I certainly hope it does help. I know I’ll never forget it.
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000">Mark Tardif
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=nfbf-l@nfbnet.org
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, December 05, 2023 6:52 PM</DIV>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NFBF-L] Voice Mail Box</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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style='FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline'>Hey
Mark, well it’s interesting and I still think that’s a worthwhile thing to do
though I think I’ve seen this bug regarding voicemail longer than iOS 17 but
anyway we shall see. Thanks for all this though because it’s probably gonna help
anyone who’s having a problem with that live voicemail thing.
<DIV>Debbie <BR>
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<DIV>It looks like the problem has been solved. I just spoke for over an
hour with a technician at U.S. Cellular. It is possible that the latest
IOS update from last week turned on a feature called Live Voice Mail, which
can apparently override your voice mailbox. So you go to settings, go to
phone, double tap it, then go to Live Voice Mail. Double tap on that,
and you get a toggle that allows you to turn that off. Turn it
off. Then have someone call you and leave a message, and your voice
mailbox should work. It appears that nobody except my last technician
had ever heard of such a thing. Just my opinion. So if anyone else
gets this problem, this is what I would suggest. </DIV>
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, December 05, 2023 6:09 PM</DIV>
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never done any of that and I don’t remember my pin number. Lol I just always
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<DIV>Another thing I have noticed is that I don’t appear to be able to
access my messages from another phone, even if I use my voice mail Pin
number. Even if I try to record a greeting, if I call from another
phone Seri overrides it and does its own greeting. I wonder what would
happen if I tried to delete the entire voice mail service and then restart
it, except I don’t know how to actually do that. This hardly sounds
like being more advanced. Just my opinion.
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, December 05, 2023 4:47 PM</DIV>
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I think one of the things that makes this difficult is that it is
intermittent and they don’t know how to reproduce it because it doesn’t
happen that way all the time. There are some voicemails that I get right
away and then there are others that I don’t and I’ve even seen this with
email where I don’t see it And then I do a search or something and it’ll
show up and it’ll be in the middle of some others that I did see so I don’t
know how it’s hiding but yeah I just think it’s very hard to reproduce but I
know of people in other countries and With other carriers that have
gotten this so I really don’t believe it’s carrier unless it’s specific
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<DIV>Finally, someone who actually experienced this!!! At the risk
of sounding quite rough, I cannot believe that the people at Apple and
U.S. Cellular are totally unaware of this. What kind of techs do
they hire, anyway? Sorry, but these technology issues can sometimes
make me wonder if we have really advanced at all in that area.
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, December 05, 2023 3:17 PM</DIV>
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Mark, I was told that this is a bug, and never heard it to be a carrier
issue. I believe there are people who experience this no matter which
carrier they are with. My experiences that it will show me no mail and
then maybe an hour or two later it will show me that indeed there is mail.
I have not yet tried but think I will try clearing phone out of the app
switcher to see if that helps maybe for it to refresh. It is odd but I
have kind of gotten used to it and I know not to trust it when it says
there is nothing there and surely enough I will see it. it is surprising
that no one knows how to reproduce it though because I have known for this
to be a bug with all their number of people I don’t know maybe for a year
or so. Maybe others will weigh in.
<DIV>All best,</DIV>
<DIV>Debbie Hazelton <BR>
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<DIV>This is specifically for anyone using an I Phone with Useless, I
mean U.S. Cellular. Alright, I’ll try to be nice, LOL. And I
will make this as short as possible. Has anybody experienced a
situation in which you dial in your voice mailbox and get told there are
no messages, even though you know someone called you and left a
message? I went to our local U.S. Cellular store this morning and
the technician had never seen anything like that. I called Apple,
and they say it’s a carrier issue. I spoke on the phone with who
knows how many people at U.S. Cellular who tried all kinds of things,
some of which I had already tried, but they really couldn’t help.
Obviously I am going to need to learn to use the phone app to retrieve
voice mail messages, and I am working on that, but It would be nice to
still have this option. Thank you in advance for any
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