[NFBJ] Can anyone comment on message illegibility?

Tue May 6 22:56:55 UTC 2025

Greetings everyone,
I have seen a couple of posts that have come out as a bunch of letters.
Here is a message from David Andrews, list manager for all of the NFB's
listservs.  I think this will explain the problem.  (I hope this message
comes through):
This is Dave Andrews, List Owner, and Web Master for NFBNET.ORG
<http://nfbnet.org/>. This is not a spam message.

Almost six weeks ago, our software provider, cPanel, updated the software,
called Mailman, that runs all our lists. Unfortunately, there were some
bugs in the update, which they have not yet fixed. They are aware of them,
and say they are working on them. They indicate that fixes for most of the
problems are or will be available soon, but we do not know when that will
be. We have expected a corrected update for a couple weeks so far, but is
has not yet come out. I can’t say when this will happen, but I am sure it
will.

The bugs manifest themselves in several ways. Some messages contain random
characters, especially the equals sign, =, or others. Some messages come
out, completely unreadable, this is actually Mime-encoded Base64, and can
be unencoded with some effort, but is unreadable to a human. If you go to
http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/
<https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nfbnet.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2F&data=05%7C02%7Cdavid.b.andrews%40state.mn.us%7Cbaf17761ba6e4c5b2d8308dd8a8730cc%7Ceb14b04624c445198f26b89c2159828c%7C0%7C0%7C638819035417964335%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=wWsZSQmeVa4JKLnOB4OoND%2FufLCQTBPa8CW4%2BGDsI1g%3D&reserved=0>
and
try to subscribe to a list from there you will get a error. There may be
problems with some digests, and moderators may or may not be able to
approve held messages.

There are workarounds for some of these, and not for others. For the
extraneous characters, and the Mine encoding jibberish, you can send your
message as an attachment, use a different mail program, or switch from text
to html, or vice versa from html to text. One of these fixes may, or may
not work.

For subscribing, you can still subscribe via e-mail, or you can write me at
david.andrews at nfbnet.org and I will do it for you. To subscribe to a list
via e-mail, send a message to:

List Name-subscribe at nfbnet.org

For example, if you wanted to subscribe to the student list you would send
a message to nabs-l-subscribe at nfbnet.org

The list name is nabs-l.  You can see all the list names at
http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/
<https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nfbnet.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2F&data=05%7C02%7Cdavid.b.andrews%40state.mn.us%7Cbaf17761ba6e4c5b2d8308dd8a8730cc%7Ceb14b04624c445198f26b89c2159828c%7C0%7C0%7C638819035417981490%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=DzSN4kFoOjJnT8HnbwGFNRB8mrZFh1viYa5ZX8m%2Bkwo%3D&reserved=0>
They
are the first line of the two-line entry for each list.

For the Moderators, there is no workaround that I know of.

I feel your pain and frustration! This has been a huge problem for me, and
please know that as soon as fixes are in place, I will let you know.

As always, you can write me at david.andrews at nfbnet.org with any questions.

David Andrews, List Owner and Web Master

nfbnet.org

I hope this information helps explain the problem.  It looks like the fix
needs to come from the sender.  If you wish to reach me directly, my
contact information is below.  I hope this was helpful.

Stewart Prost, Chair, NFB in Judaism
Phone: 757-572-6891
Email: sprost82 at gmail.com

On Tue, May 6, 2025 at 6:41 PM mlevy--- via NFBJ <nfbj at nfbnet.org> wrote:

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-- 
*Stewart Prost*
Phone: 757-572-6891
Fax: 757-210-7504
Email: sprost82 at gmail.com