[nfbmi-talk] regarding training center move

Jim Prather (Jim in Detroit james.prather at comcast.net
Sun Dec 12 21:42:08 CST 2010


Way to go Lydia; BTW, It was good meeting you at the Convention down 
here.

Jim Prather

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From: "Laura White" <lewhite86 at gmail.com>
Sent: December 12, 2010 21:28
To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] regarding training center move

Lydia,
Good on you for ranting; or as I like to call it speaking out.
Transition kids needs a voice, one who understands and listens and
somebody with a kid in the mix doesn't hurt either. I wish when I was
transitioning that I had the support from others who cared.
Sadly, my commission experiences were definitely less than
satisfactory.  I had hoped that by now some 7 years later that things
would have  changed.  It seems to me that the people they are meant to
serve are the ones they have forgotten.

Laura

On 12/12/10, Lydia Schuck <laschuck at juno.com> wrote:
>  Here I am talking about people with additional disabilities again...I
> hoped Anna might find a program at the training center for a couple of
> weeks next summer.  I know, however, that she and some others can only
> thrive in a setting that is organized and in a program that is
> well-planned.  Routines have to be established so that clients can be
> confident in the daily processes and the staff who conduct the
> programming.  Anna is not the only blind person in Michigan who has a
> developmental disability as well.  Anna is employable, and she has 
> career
> goals, but if the training center doesn't settle somewhere quickly, 
> there
> won't be enough time to get the program together.  I know there are 
> other
> adults of all ages who need to be trained in a place that is
> well-arranged, well-organized, and with progrems that are well-planned
> for the setting.  Thanks....for listening to me rant.  I won't stop
> ranting about transition age kids even when Anna is fully employed.
> Lydia
> On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 12:00:14 -0600 nfbmi-talk-request at nfbnet.org 
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>>    1. Re: where are mcb tc staff today and what
>> are        theydoing?
>>       (joe harcz Comcast)
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>> Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2010 16:18:14 -0500
>> From: "joe harcz Comcast" <joeharcz at comcast.net>
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>>         theydoing?
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>> Yes, and quite frankly Ms. Hiebeck was lying outright about what
>> people are
>> doing right now at the Fetzer and that is why I called her out on
>> it. Truth
>> is truth. Lies are lies. And this is very black and white.
>>
>> They don't have a contract for a place to house the training center
>> as II
>> write and they don't even have any good prospects right now either.
>> These
>> are a matter of public records. Meanwhile good and quality staff ...
>> folks
>> like Rehab Teachers, and Mobility Instructors are having their
>> valued
>> services squanderred at taxpayer's expense. Man, some chastise me
>> for
>> calling a spade a spade. Some say I'm not for the "staff" of MCB.
>> That is
>> not true at all ... I love these "frontline" staff that do give us
>> the tools
>> to be independent. And they are in fact the people I'm fighting for
>> and
>> those valued services.
>>
>> But, the fish rots from its head and the whole of M
>> CB is both corrupted and grossly incompetent right from its highest
>> level.
>> The boondoggle over this Training Center issue is only the tip of
>> the
>> iceberg. Man, Fred and others know that more time and effort was
>> conducted
>> to purge you alone Chris than in paying attention to MCB's
>> fundamental
>> mission.
>>
>> This stuff brings literal tears to my eyes. I weep for the people
>> who are
>> not getting anything and for the competent staff that is sitting
>> around
>> doing nothing of real value, not because of their wishes, but
>> because of
>> gross malfeasance right at the top of this organization.
>>
>> Anyway if anyone is blind and needs services, basic rehab services I
>> suggest
>> they drop a dime and call the training center. And if folks here or
>> on the
>> board challenge me on this or that or the other thing then I suggest
>> they
>> make a call to on Monday.
>>
>> Facts are facts except in the bizarro cult world of the vision 20/20
>> world
>> of huff and puffery, spin and outright lies. Man, George Orwell
>> couldn't
>> have written a better script for what MCB has been and is now.
>>
>> Joe
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Christine Boone" <christine_boone at comcast.net>
>> To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 3:43 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] where are mcb tc staff today and what are
>>
>> theydoing?
>>
>>
>> No we do not have a location.  Further, the end is not in sight.
>> How will
>> classes begin in January with the safety and confidentiality of
>> students
>> preserved and protected, at least to the reasonable standard that
>> any adult
>> would find acceptable?
>>
>> On Dec 9, 2010, at 11:15 AM, joe harcz Comcast wrote:
>>
>> >> From MCB Report:
>> >
>> >
>> > "TRAINING CENTER REPORT
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Training Center Move
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Arrangements have been made for the Training Center to be entirely
>> moved
>> > out of the Oakland Drive location on Saturday December 6th. A
>> warehouse
>> > space is being procured to store most of the Center?s possessions
>> for the
>> > next year. There have been several months of exploration and
>> negotiations
>> > to secure a suitable alternative site to run the program at and
>> staff is
>> > well on the way to securing a site in the Kalamazoo area. Classes
>> are
>> > expected to resume at the beginning of January."
>> >
>> > Now, do we have an alternate location for the training center or
>> not?
>> >
>> > Joe Harcz
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