[nfbmi-talk] now making more than $95 k
joe harcz Comcast
joeharcz at comcast.net
Sat Nov 20 03:36:19 UTC 2010
Dear Chris and All,
I must say that this is refreshing in the revelation of personal and other
considerations to public employment and service. It is also refreshing to
denote the commitment to the rehabilitation of people who are blind that you
embody. We may now and may likely disagree on this or that issue or modality
of instruction, but the commitment is there on both of our behalf's.
Direction, dedication and also performance means something to me.
I personally, can't say whether or not you were "over paid" for this
speaking as a taxpayer. That is always a difficult issue to grapple with
although I strongly think that public servants do deserve good pay as well
as, of course the average working stiff or entrepreneur.
So let me say simply that good teachers are grossly underpaid. bad ones are
grossly overpaid. Good administrators of any sort, public or private are
grossly underpaid and bad ones overpaid to be sure. There are lots of value
judgments, but also effective objective measures about that can and should
sort the wheat from the chaff.
With all of the bailouts in the literal tens of billions for scofflaws on
Wall Street let me say that this sort of a debate wouldn't be a pimple on
the proverbial elephant's behind if it weren't so much close to home
so-to-speak. Regardless I know that you and all on this list truly in their
hearts of hearts wish for the betterment of all people who are blind. More,
importantly I think by objective measures of performance you and others like
you live up to those standards and long have done so. I'm not such a hard
task master so as to expect perfection. That is an impossable standard for
you, any public servent, and even folks like myself...lol...But I do expect
some sort of objective measurement of results and performance in both the
public and private sphere.
As a measure of the scoundrels who hang onto their high salaries in MCB
without offering anything of substance back I ask openly, "Can you (Cannon,
et al) say the same?"
NFB has been consistent over all from its beginnings in that it opposes the
"custodialization" of people who are blind and the innate profiteering from
us in delivery of social and rehab services. I must say that all have not
lived up to that and I've fought that openly when I thought some in the
organization failed us onthis or that issue. This is pretty well known. Yet,
the thrust was and is genuine and is exemplified by true patriots for the
advancement and the true freedom of all who are blind from the chains of
paternalistic and self-serving agencies.
This beast we have on our hands here in Michigan is a bad one. They have
sold us, we the people out for thirty pieces of silver and for abusive power
over us.
An anecdote here about the culture of MCB over all under Cannon:
I returned to my native Michigan in January of 2001 after more than twenty
years out of state. I had accomplished a lot of things and had a record of
advocy including forcing ADA/504 compliance on a number of entities
including New Hampshire V.R. and it's blindness services program. In fact I
personally, among other things caused them to scrap their entire computer
system, and forced them to make certain facilities accessable, and forced
the Director of Blind Services into retirement (very early by the way, but
not without retaliation and damage to myself)I, frankly was retaliated
against for those efforts and suffered greatly from discrimination. I also,
do to degenerating eyesight, but with work and family commitments did not
have the opportunity to have any sort of residential basic rehab. So,
licking my wounds I came back to Michigan with some advance notice and
scouting in large part because MCB was so highly promoted and so good
relative to many other states.
And sure it was even back then even though things were mixed even then and
early retirements were hitting some very good folks.
Regardless I had an over all positive experience at the MCB TC as you know,
but some very negative experiences and even illegal discriminatory
experiences with field and supervisory staff here in Flint.
It was a mixed bag to be sure.
Anyway, one good MCB staffer who I won't name got me early on in 2001 into
the MCB Twenty-Twenty process. I attended a meeting in Flint about April or
May of 2001 and there was John victory there who is a good guy by the way
but I think naive. He knew I was a member of ADAPT which, quite frankly
makes the radical label of NFB look rather mainstream if you catch my
drift...
Anyway he commented that he never met an ADAPTer in a business suit, which I
was wearing at the time, albeit I did also have a leather jacket and a pony
tail back then. I just laughed and said, "I'm plain clothes right now and I
literally pulled out a pare of handcuffs."
(He knew what they wer all about because ADAPT does believe and act in a
direct action modus operandi of lawful, non-violent civil disobedience...
But, then one of these initial Vision Twenty twenty meetings started with
introductions and those opening comments. All of the staff started talking
about this or that internal staff sort of thing ranging from vacation time
to whatever insider baseball perks or labor negotiations item caught their
fancy inthe Twenty Twenty sort of way of dodging any real issues with
content and in the model of informed ambiguity and lack of focus.
It got around to me and I said, kind of in a brother Ray Roberson candid
moment, ""Im Joe Harcz, and I'm a blind consumer. And if it wasn't for blind
consumers you wouldn't have a job here. It is after all your reason for
existence. And, to be quite blunt you work for me."
You see I was already to old even then for bovine scatology and an
anti-consumer focus of this agency as presented by most of the staff there
at the time.
I just don't have the patience anymore for tact or anything less than
straight talk.
Man, let me tell you that over all when it comes to many, many individuals
and even entire agencies over all in the V.R. system I don't think that
fifty percent of them could work themselves in the private sector or even in
the public sector agency with more oversight.
Generally I'm not talking about frontline personnel here especially rehab
teachers, O and M instructors, and the like. But, even though there are many
good counselors I've found that they were rare then and even more rare now.
And that is from the standpoint of simple knowledge about the process and
laws they are supposedly trained and highly educated to know and implement.
I mean Leamon is a case in point and all of Leamon's men and women for
crying out loud they had blind students like Kimberly and her sisters have
to advise them of proper citations related to the college policy for crying
out loud. And if it weren't for the very rehab act now turning ninety years
old they wouldn't even have their jobs!
The mission is distorted here in the minds of these controllers and we have
become the enemy. By we I mean the consumer or customer or the bBlind or
otherwise disabled person. It is a sick and sickly paradigm (worldview) and
it is an institutional prejudice and paradigm fostered by MCB leadership in
this state. The buck or, rather bucks stop directly at the top. And that
goes to Cannon.
It also goes to his lackeys and lap dogs who also bring down undeserved big
bucks at the public trough. We cannot tolerate this in an era of austerity
where many politicians wish to cut programs such as these. Incompetence and
corruption only gives ammunition to those who wish to destroy V.R. programs.
And folks like Cannon make it imposable for advocates for V.R. programs to
operate even on the political plain.
but, not to worry they got theirs. They've sucked our blood over and over
again. But, the well is running dry and the day for atonement is nigh.
you know there are some certain measures here and some measures of equity
and justice. for those who think that I'm bashing or that I grind on the MCB
issue too much I say:
-Look at the operating budget and the fact that a handful of hacks took
almost as much as all of the college tuition for blind students through the
first three quarters of the last fiscal year
-Look at all of those elderly blind and IL blind people in Michigan that
went unserved as malfeeasant Cannon squirrelled mone to who knows where
-Look at the fact that residential rehab will be closed for Lord knows how
long now because of ineptitued
-Look at all the violations of BEP operators that has gone on
-Look at all the blind folks who've been fired, retired or died in the last
year and all the replacements who are for the most part unqualified or
lessor qualified sighted lackies and hacks
-Look at all the raw deals and malfeasance going on in the transitioning,
let alone basic instruction of our kids who are blind
To say that I'm "pissed off" would be an understatement. But, the powers
that be might just say that I need anger managment as that is their
paternalistic abusive mechanism of reinforcing stereotypes bwhile denying
illegal and unjust activities. Just rewind the tape on the Hazelle Brooks
affair by the gods!
Meanwhile back at the ranch Cannon and cronies suck up the bucks like they
are sucking the marrow out of the very bones of the Golden Calf they worship
in blasphemy so in contradiction of their very mission.
No, I don't think that people in rehab or public service in general should
be total altruists or "Albert Switzers" or "Gahndis", but they should at
least be committed to deliverying th goods and services they are required to
deliver fin recompence for their paychecks.
Again, all one needs to do is to call an office, any office and see if one
gets a call back in forty eight hours. It just doesn't happen in MCB for the
most part.
Richard Clay and his group documented that fact very well and publicly
protested it especially in the Eastern and Detroit region.
Man, the same "thumsuckers" are still in place and drawing paychecks that
most folks sighted or blind in this economic nightmare in Michigan would
almost literally kill for.
In the coming days and weeks and months I'm pulling off the gloves and I'm
going to document and I'm going to name names and I'm going to expose all of
this.
And here is the final challenge to MCB as a whole. If they think I'm kidding
or lying then let them sue me for liable or defamation. I'd love to have at
them on those counts.
I say, "Do you feel lucky punk?"
Oh yes, and that goes to the fools at the A.G.'s office too. Man, a
non-lawyer with two brain lobes tied behind his or her back could beat those
clowns in any court of law that was not corrupted politically to begin with.
I do not wish to appear to be politically incorrect here but Barbara Schmidt
and her ilk seem to have reading disorders for they don't seem to understand
the plain language of statute, regulations and case law.
Oh, when you have all of the taxpayer's money to defend yourself (in this
case the state) against your own perfidy I guess it leads to some rather
arrogent, ad hoc, arbitrary and capricious items. But, the day has past for
this sort of bull hockey on both sides of the political spectrum.
I'm taking them down if it is the last thing I do on earth.
In my not so humble opinion there is no room left for compromise or
nicie-nicie accommodation to this corrupted power structure. Simply, the
time has gone and we are in the fight of our lives here.
You know I want you to get your job back, Christine, I trully do and I state
that for the record hee though my praise for attributes, commitment, and
dedication let alone performance might be seen as a sort of "damning by
feignt praise" or worse, might be considerred by some as a sort of
condemnation by default. You know, if Joe Harcz supports her then she must
be screwed up...Smile...
Maybe, using reverse psycology I should publicly oppose you...Grin...
Oh, Maybey if that works then I'd openly support Pat Cannon, Zanger, Hull,
White, Jones, Robertson and all the other illk who are and who have been
sucking our blood and the system while investigating bullet proof wardrobes
for the emporors with no clothes. Wow, what does that incident say about
"consumer satisfaction" eh? I think it says legions. I mean if they in the
MCB administratin are so paranoid about we the collective masses of blind
folks here in Michigan being so ticked off at their actions that they need
to research bullet proof drapes at MCB meetings then I don't know what to
say about logic, and even logical interpretations of events, cause and
effect and all that.
Then again back at the ranch onf our goofy and illogical anduniformed MCB
board the logic wasn't taken into account in this regards by Ms. Pilarski,
or even relevence for that matter. for at that very meeting she chaired
where the bullet proof drapes were considerred and Cannon sent her the
details she Chaired by teleconference from her bunker in Alpena. I guess
this second grade teacher didn't advance much past second grade in science.
I mean you don't have bullet prooof drapes protect you on the telephone.
Lots of follks can send lots of stuff through the phone lines nowadays, but
they still haven't figured out how to send bullets through the phone lines
JoAnne.
To her credit I know that Pat scared her pants off about the great
african-American blind threat from Detroit. How, utterly rascist and
anti-Blind to boot this whole insane affair was. Oh well, more diversity
training I guess eh?
Anyway in my ramble and in full circle I must say that I cannot wait to get
to Kalamazoo. It is a very nice city over all, albeit like all with some
flaws. It is one of the most blind friendly cities I've ever visited let
alone lived in for avariety of reasons.
I think we should examine them someday. But, aside from the NFB presence the
fact is that both the Western program and the TC is there and thus at very
least most folks there are used to seeing blind folks up and about.
That is not an applause for a condemnation of either or both programs. But,
the fact is that in all of my involvement in Kalamazoo I never once heard
the words, "You're the first blind person I ever met."
I miss Kalamazoo. Even the brutal winter there....
Peace,
Joe
----- Original Message -----
From: "Christine Boone" <Christine_Boone at comcast.net>
To: "'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List'" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 8:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] now making more than $95 k
>
>
> I do agree, most certainly.
> In fact, when Pat asked me for my salary requirements, I considered
> carefully before giving him a number. As a state director in
> Pennsylvania,
> I made about $67 thousand when I left state employment. When Pat found me
> in 2006, I really did not want to leave Pennsylvania. Our son Ed had just
> graduated from high school and our daughter Kate was about to start her
> junior year.
> I did not want to leave the home where they had grown up, or the friends
> and
> surroundings that were so dear to us all. It actually took Pat several
> weeks of repeated telephone calls and conversations, to convince me to
> submit an application. As a result, I gave Pat a number that I honestly
> thought might, in some way, help to compensate my family for all that they
> would lose in that move. It was also a number that I frankly never
> thought
> he would meet. To my surprise, he did. I started at $90 thousand, and
> received one 3% COLA in 2007 and another in 2008. State salaries have
> been
> frozen since that time, and merit increases were taken away the month
> before
> I came to Michigan.
>
> So there you have the thumb-nail version.
>
> By the way, we are hooked on this lovely place. The move turned out to be
> hardest on our son Ed. He left home for college in Nebraska, and came
> home
> for Christmas to a house he had never seen, in a strange city where he
> knew
> no one except his parents and sister.
>
> Really though, my family is blessed! Doug and I have two of the most
> wonderful children that anyone could ask for, and they will both be coming
> home to us for Thanksgiving. We live in beautiful Kalamazoo County, where
> we have the greatest NFB chapter in the state!!! We love all of you other
> chapters too, Just wait until we treat you to some unbeatable Kalamazoo
> hospitality at the 2011 convention of the National Federation of the Blind
> of Michigan.
>
> Warmest Regards,
> Christine
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On Behalf Of joe harcz Comcast
> Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 7:43 PM
> To: NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] now making more than $95 k
>
> I'm pretty sure that she does but could be off by a few bucks or so.
> Still,
> look at Jones' base in 2007!
>
> Anyway, as you know my argument isn't how much one makes, but one of
> accountability and transparency.
>
> I wouldn't begrudged Cannon his salary at all if I thought he actually
> deserved it for example.
>
> These are only parameters for the public to decide.
>
> But, let me say this it makes me sick to my stomache whenver I here some
> highly paid person of any stripe in the publicsector, let alone one like
> this on condemn and make ad hominum attacks against consumers or clients
> or
> whatever as if we are "ripping off the system".
>
> It enrages me to no end.
>
> And for these hacks and the likes of those like White who denied me dental
> and otehr services in violation of the law of which I suffer to date while
> she and the likes of Cannon go on fabulous vacations and then double dip
> and
> do other garbage is simply beyond the pale. And I'm just the proverbial
> tip
> of the iceberg.
>
> Oh, when CRC who make in the mid fifties and up stood before the MCB, on
> state time and on the clock to lobby for effectively illegal and knowingly
> illegal means testing and condeming blind college students I just about
> lost
> it. Good thing I wasn't there in person. I may have been arrested for
> foaming at the mouth and going ballistic over these insults against us.
>
> Man, and everyone of them disable or not, blind or not have benefitted by
> the system they violate too, and big time.
>
> Now, I certainly separate those both of goodwill and of merit in this
> process and do not wish to throw the baby out with the bathwater. I
> certainly don't begrudge you, Chris your salary although I think all
> salaries are and should be public knoledge as a matter of transparency
> (sonething that is a separate issue, but I think you'd agree).
>
> We should have evaluations eespecially of upper echelon state employees
> and
> those funded with fed bucks available to. And they should be impartial and
> objective.
>
> The public has a right to know as I'm sure you will agree.
>
> Now, there are contingencies that raw data alone can't bring true light
> upon. That is the problem with "no child left behind" legislation and
> "teaching to the test". But, regardless as to metrics and how the public
> judges, rightfully or wrongly we need to know this stuff and we have the
> right to have it in the public domain.
>
> I know you agree which is why we can disagree so much without being
> disagreeable...(Not on all things or even most things for sure, but on
> some
> things...) Smiles...
>
> Joe
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Christine Boone" <Christine_Boone at comcast.net>
> To: "'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List'" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 7:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] now making more than $95 k
>
>
>> Joe,
>> Do we know for sure how much she makes now? Are they paying her the base
>> of
>> that position? This is not $95 thousand. Cannon complained about having
>> to
>> pay me as much as he did (92 not 95), but that was just what I asked for
>> as
>> my salary when he head hunted me.
>>
>> CB
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On Behalf Of joe harcz Comcast
>> Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 5:26 PM
>> To: nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [nfbmi-talk] now making more than $95 k
>>
>>
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