[nfbmi-talk] rehab counselors
wadecher at msu.edu
Fri Apr 15 03:59:29 UTC 2011
You ought to teach a class! Your advice is wise and useful. Thank you.
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Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] rehab counselors
> I am so glad that you have such questions; I believe you are on your way
> to becoming a thoughtful and consienscious rehabilitation counselor. I
> think you should spend the majority of your time working with individuals
> who are seriously looking for work and have the legitimate skills to
> actually obtain and maintain a job. As far as being a rehab counselor and
> disclosing the client's disability, that would be up to the client.
> Eventually, the employer is going to find out anyway and the client and
> you really have to sit down and analyze the job situation to assess
> weather or not your client has the abilities and the requirements to
> perform his or her responsibilities. This is crucial because the during
> the interview process, the client is going to have to explain how he or
> she can perform the duties of the job.
> I'm not sure what the commission's policy is on vocational goals you need
> to see what the client wants to do. If you are trying to get the client
> "any job" and he or she is not motivated or doesn't want to work in a
> certain profession, then he or she is going to be less likely to attempt
> to maintain employment in that arena. You should obtain the client's input
> as to what he or she wants their career to be. Yu should then assess the
> availability of jobs in this area and explain it to the client. You should
> see if the client is medically well enough to perform the job. One good
> way to due this is by having some clients volunteer in their field so that
> they know what the work entails.
> For example, I have a blind friend who wishes to be involved in music but
> obviously doesn't have the talent to be a hit artist in my opinion.
> You should know what the client's philosophy is on blindness, as well, as
> it relates to him and herself. You should be honest with your client about
> how much work you will be able to do with him or her and what is
> available. As far as obtaining accessible equipment, they obviously need
> to familiarize themselves with the equipment but should also agree to
> pursue his or her goals in preparation for work.
> As far as utilizing other career services through other agencies, it is
> very situational and all agencies are different. My personal experience is
> that they are clueless about blindness and don't was to readily work with
> blind people, referring them for the Commission for the blind. Many such
> people don't know what the Commission is there for and think that they
> have an endless amount of money and due everything for blind people. Many
> generic programs for the blind, if they don't get paid on commission or if
> the blind person isn't interested in the field, then it is a waist of time
> and money.
> You should also know that many schools do not equip blind people for work
> and neither do universities. Many parents don't make their blind children
> do chores around the house and therefore the blind person may be very
> booksmart but low on actual work experience. I've seen many successful
> people who went through the NFB centers, and in the end, it isn't a waist
> of money because it actually puts the blind person out in the real world
> to gain confidence, which many blind people who have never been employed
> I received a degree in English and psychology, which both really require
> further education to get a real job these days. My work experience has
> been limited to phone work and teaching Braille and tutoring sighted
> people. My case was eventually closed because of my ongoing medical
> problems which prevented me from maintaining jobs.
> I know there are plenty of blind folks who are successful workers or have
> been and have the experience and motivation to do great things. My
> knowledge has been limited to my and others' experiences. College isn't
> necessary for everyone and I would encourage all college students to do as
> much paid work and volunteer work as possible. Blind people aren't really
> different from other people. There are lazy ones and motivated ones,
> varying levels of intelligence etc.
> I am totally blind which can be a different experience for one who has
> gone blind or who has some usable vision. I hope this doesn't anger anyone
> on the list but it is my honest assessment.
> Christy hope this is helpful to you and others on the list.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cheryl Wade" <wadecher at msu.edu>
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> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 9:42 AM
> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] rehab counselors
>> Hello, all.
>> I have read a bit on these posts about rehab counselors. I don't read
>> many of the posts but I gather there's a good deal of discontent about
>> these folks. As a rehab counselor trainee -- seeking a master's right
>> now -- I'm very interested in what you think about counselors. I do,
>> however, want to pose some questions. I do this not to stick up for
>> counselors, but to say that rehabilitation is a two-way street. Please
>> don't poke me in the eye too hard over this.
>> First, rehab counselors have many duties and, because of case loads and
>> funding cuts, those duties are likely to spike. Not only do counselors
>> need to help people find jobs, but they need to take detailed case notes,
>> fill out reams of paperwork, travel to various places to meet with
>> clients, evaluate clients in various ways so the counselor knows their
>> career interests and aptitudes, and ensure our profession's ethics are
>> maintained scrupulously. If we also are job developers, there are many
>> business and other relationships (which means lots of meetings) to attend
>> Here are some questions I wish we could discuss:
>> * What makes a good counselor -- or a bad one, for that matter -- and
>> what makes a good or a bad client?
>> * How much help should a counselor provide, and what should the client
>> * Does the presence of a counselor put a client in jeopardy when the
>> counselor talks to a possible employer? The counselor, ethically, must
>> mention that he/she is, indeed, a rehabilitation counselor. That signals
>> to the employer that the client is a person with a disability. Now, the
>> employer is waiting to see what kind of disabled person will show up. How
>> does this impact the client's right to disclose that information when he/
>> she chooses?
>> * Should a client take a job simply to take a job, or should he/she
>> refuse a job? Under what circumstances?
>> * How does the level of computer access help or hinder persons who are
>> blind when they seek jobs?
>> * What are ways in which counselors and clients can learn about their
>> communities so they know where to look for job opportunities?
>> * How many hours a week should a person who is unemployed spend looking
>> for work?
>> * Is it appropriate to seek help from other agencies besides MCB? Why or
>> why not?
>> Now that I've short-circuited my brain and a few others', have a great
>> Cheryl Wade
>> Michigan State University
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