[nfbmi-talk] jobs are available at Leader Dog

Sun Dec 4 12:55:57 UTC 2011

I agree with Fred and Jay Jay.  They seem to be willing to work around us 
not being able to convert to PDF file as easily as others.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Fred Wurtzel
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 12:15 AM
To: 'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] jobs are available at Leader Dog

Joe,

I think Leaderdog is in bounds on the PDF thing.  It is pretty widespread
these days.  One thing is that it tends to protect the applicant if the
document is locked up.
  PDF is a choice on the save as menu, so it is no burden for blind people.

Warm Regards,

Fred
-----Original Message-----
From: nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
On Behalf Of joe harcz Comcast
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 12:01 AM
To: NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List
Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] jobs are available at Leader Dog

I'm talking about grapics and other do-dads...

They don't compete for one moment with real work experience and academic
credentials.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "J.J. Meddaugh" <jj at bestmidi.com>
To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 10:01 PM
Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] jobs are available at Leader Dog

> If someone sends me a resume with some substance but they didn't take any
> care in making it look good, I'm going to generally discard it. You don't
> need to have the skill s of a graphic designer but at least put some time
> into your presentation.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "joe harcz Comcast" <joeharcz at comcast.net>
> To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 7:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] jobs are available at Leader Dog
>
>
>>I was speaking generically in that there is nowadays a prejudice for
>>visual presentation over substance in the workplace, period.
>>
>> Joe
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "J.J. Meddaugh" <jj at bestmidi.com>
>> To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 6:28 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] jobs are available at Leader Dog
>>
>>
>>> Joe,
>>> It's unfair to look at their past history and assume there is some form
>>> of prejudice here. If I were to hire for a position in my company, I
>>> would require an electronic resume or perhaps set up a website form.
>>> Yes, unfortunately, not everyone has a computer but it is also something

>>> I feel to be important as a part of my job process. I feel no obligation

>>> to accept a paper resume or one in a format that will not suit my hiring

>>> process.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> J.J. Meddaugh
>>> A T Guys
>>> Your Assistive Technology Experts
>>> (269) 216-4798
>>> http://www.ATGuys.com
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "joe harcz Comcast" <joeharcz at comcast.net>
>>> To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 7:54 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] jobs are available at Leader Dog
>>>
>>>
>>>> Dear J.J. and All,
>>>>
>>>> My point was not that technically it is not duable, but rather, a .pdf,

>>>> or print, faxed version of a resume can be problematic for blind folks
>>>> who do not have access to all the latest and greatest in technology. It

>>>> also goes to the fact that creating say a .pdf file has noting to do
>>>> with the essential functions of the jobs at issue.
>>>>
>>>> Regardless a well put together Word document should not be an issue for

>>>> them at Leader Dog.
>>>>
>>>> What is troubling to me is this appears to have a prejudice of visual
>>>> form over substance at its core.
>>>>
>>>> It might seem subtle, and even trite, but it is very typical.
>>>>
>>>> For what these potential employers aresaying is they want visually
>>>> pleasing resumes and value that over the real substance of one's
>>>> abilities in a given feild.
>>>>
>>>> Shifting gears however it does go to show that we, who are blind
>>>> desperately need advanced technical training in all the latest and
>>>> greatest to be competative.
>>>>
>>>> We, for the most part including myself are not so. And we for the most
>>>> part, including myself cannot afford to keep up. I am living with a six

>>>> year old computer with Jaws 6.2, for example and cannot afford to
>>>> upgrade right now. I will be getting an I-phone as soon as Verizon gets

>>>> the new one in, perhaps on December 9.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, one thing exciting is that the MCB TC will be upgrading its
>>>> tech component and we should all be able to access that component being

>>>> critical for not only employment prospects but even independent living
>>>> in the 21st century.
>>>>
>>>> Joe
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "J.J. Meddaugh" <jj at bestmidi.com>
>>>> To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 8:18 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] jobs are available at Leader Dog
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> This is doable.
>>>>> Create a resume in Microsoft Word and then either save it as a .PDF or

>>>>> use one of the many online Word to .PDF converters.
>>>>> For example
>>>>> http://www.convertfiles.com
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>> J.J. Meddaugh
>>>>> A T Guys
>>>>> Your Assistive Technology Experts
>>>>> (269) 216-4798
>>>>> http://www.ATGuys.com
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "joe harcz Comcast" <joeharcz at comcast.net>
>>>>> To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 11:14 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] jobs are available at Leader Dog
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I like this except for the pdf requirement herein...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The reason is obvious.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Joe
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Larry Posont" <president.nfb.mi at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 11:11 AM
>>>>>> Subject: [nfbmi-talk] jobs are available at Leader Dog
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Rachelle Kniffen
>>>>>>> To: president.nfb.mi at gmail.com
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 11:41 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Leader Dog Job Listings
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Larry,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you again for giving Leader Dog time on your agenda at the
>>>>>>> Michigan NFB Convention earlier this month.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When we spoke you expressed an interest in finding out what jobs are
>>>>>>> available at Leader Dog. You can always review our open positions at
>>>>>>> Leader Dogs for the Blind: Careers: Current Openings. Please feel
>>>>>>> free
>>>>>>> to pass this link along to anyone you feel may be interested in
>>>>>>> finding out what jobs we have open. This page is continually updated
>>>>>>> as positions are filled and new ones come available.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Take care,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rachelle Kniffen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Marketing Specialist
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Leader Dogs for the Blind
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 248-659-5013
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> leaderdog.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Enhancing the lives of people who are blind and visually impaired.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To learn more about how we help empower our clients to increase
>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>> mobility, independence and quality of life visit us at
>>>>>>> www.leaderdog.org.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: Rachelle Kniffen
>>>>>>> To: president.nfb.mi at gmail.com
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 11:41 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Leader Dog Job Listings
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Larry,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you again for giving Leader Dog time on your agenda at the
>>>>>>> Michigan NFB Convention earlier this month.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When we spoke you expressed an interest in finding out what jobs are
>>>>>>> available at Leader Dog. You can always review our open positions at
>>>>>>> Leader Dogs for the Blind: Careers: Current Openings. Please feel
>>>>>>> free
>>>>>>> to pass this link along to anyone you feel may be interested in
>>>>>>> finding out what jobs we have open. This page is continually updated
>>>>>>> as positions are filled and new ones come available.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Take care,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rachelle Kniffen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Marketing Specialist
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Leader Dogs for the Blind
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 248-659-5013
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> leaderdog.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Enhancing the lives of people who are blind and visually impaired.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To learn more about how we help empower our clients to increase
>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>> mobility, independence and quality of life visit us at
>>>>>>> www.leaderdog.org.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: Rachelle Kniffen
>>>>>>> To: president.nfb.mi at gmail.com
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 11:41 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Leader Dog Job Listings
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Larry,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you again for giving Leader Dog time on your agenda at the
>>>>>>> Michigan NFB Convention earlier this month.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When we spoke you expressed an interest in finding out what jobs are
>>>>>>> available at Leader Dog. You can always review our open positions at
>>>>>>> Leader Dogs for the Blind: Careers: Current Openings. Please feel
>>>>>>> free
>>>>>>> to pass this link along to anyone you feel may be interested in
>>>>>>> finding out what jobs we have open. This page is continually updated
>>>>>>> as positions are filled and new ones come available.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Take care,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rachelle Kniffen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Marketing Specialist
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Leader Dogs for the Blind
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 248-659-5013
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> leaderdog.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Enhancing the lives of people who are blind and visually impaired.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To learn more about how we help empower our clients to increase
>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>> mobility, independence and quality of life visit us at
>>>>>>> www.leaderdog.org.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Current Openings
>>>>>>> An opportunity that fits your background might be waiting for you!
>>>>>>> To
>>>>>>> apply for the following positions, complete an application or submit

>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> PDF version of your resume to humanresources at leaderdog.org. Please
>>>>>>> note that if your resume is not a PDF, it will be discarded.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Position Department
>>>>>>> Director of Client Services Client Services
>>>>>>> Manager of Residential Services Client Services
>>>>>>> Deaf-Blind Apprentice Instructor Training
>>>>>>> Orientation & Mobility Guide Dog Mobility Apprentice Instructor
>>>>>>> Training
>>>>>>> Canine Care Attendant Dog Care/Puppy Care
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Leader Dogs for the Blind
>>>>>>> 1039 S. Rochester Rd.
>>>>>>> Rochester Hills, MI 48307
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The mission of Leader Dogs for the Blind is to enhance the lives of
>>>>>>> people who are blind and visually impaired. Visit us online at
>>>>>>> leaderdog.org to find out more!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Leader Dogs for the Blind
>>>>>>> 1039 S. Rochester Rd.
>>>>>>> Rochester Hills, MI 48307
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The mission of Leader Dogs for the Blind is to enhance the lives of
>>>>>>> people who are blind and visually impaired. Visit us online at
>>>>>>> leaderdog.org to find out more!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Leader Dogs for the Blind
>>>>>>> 1039 S. Rochester Rd.
>>>>>>> Rochester Hills, MI 48307
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The mission of Leader Dogs for the Blind is to enhance the lives of
>>>>>>> people who are blind and visually impaired. Visit us online at
>>>>>>> leaderdog.org to find out more!
>>>>>>>
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