[nfbmi-talk] Fw: web access difficult for people withdisabilitiesin Michigan
joe harcz Comcast
joeharcz at comcast.net
Sat Dec 17 00:47:04 UTC 2011
The other issue is how much willl they have to pay?
But forgive me for I've just sufferred a grave personal lioss and I'm not
thinking straight.
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From: "Marcus Simmons" <MarcusSimmons at comcast.net>
To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 6:44 PM
Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Fw: web access difficult for people
withdisabilitiesin Michigan
> If we take these people to court, who will be our attorney and how much
> will we all collectively have to pay?
>
> Marcus Simmons
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "joe harcz Comcast" <joeharcz at comcast.net>
> To: "Elmer Cerano MPAS" <ECERANO at mpas.org>
> Cc: "lydia Schuck MCB Comm." <laschuck at juno.com>; "MARK CODY"
> <MCODY at mpas.org>; "Richard Bernstein Esq" <rbernstein at sambernstein.com>;
> <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>; "John Scott MCB Comm." <jcscot at sbcglobal.net>
> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 2:13 PM
> Subject: [nfbmi-talk] Fw: web access difficult for people with
> disabilitiesin Michigan
>
>
>> This post sent to former Michigan ADA Coordinator and current MCB
>> Director Cannon, current Michigan Protection and Advocacy Services
>> Director Cerano and past MPAS Director Bauer goes to known violations of
>> the ADA, 504 and other laws issues related to access to information. They
>> don't by the way deal only with the DHS web site in implication and in my
>> documentation but with basics and fundamentals of effective
>> communications.
>>
>> But this e-mail alone goes to the fact that all these officials knew or
>> should have known about obligations related to effective communications.
>>
>> Now, I have of this date have not recieved dozens if not hundreds of
>> requested documents via simple e-mail even after requests for same. All
>> have been cc'd on these issues
>>
>> What more needs to be proven? There isn't one entity including the
>> Michigan Commission for the Blind that complies with the effective
>> communications requirements of the ADA let alone those of 504.
>>
>> This is an ongoing systemwide issue and won't be solved for the blind and
>> other PWD until the entire state of Michigan and its subordinent bodies
>> are sued.
>>
>> Why they weren't under the previous Administration with all the clear cut
>> conflicts of interests is self evident to me and highly politically
>> motivated.
>>
>> I have the contributions that are public between various parties. I know
>> Mark Brewer is on the Board of Directors of MPAS. I know that MPAS is
>> loath to sue one of its own but I also have all the inter connections and
>> all the campaign contributions in these regards to including those made
>> to Ms. Bauer.
>>
>> Regardless suits are supposed to be made on the basis of facts and the
>> law and not over political connections.
>>
>> It is documented that MCB is in violation multiple times over the access
>> to information item, and even to program access. In fact so is the entire
>> state if one only looks at the DTMB surveys I've supplied everyone.
>>
>> Bottom line it is time, long since time to sue these state actors for
>> their documented violations over time against all people with
>> disabilities, but most especially those who are blind for chronic,
>> pernicious and malicious violations of all of our civil rights and that
>> ladies and gentlemen includes the violations of my rights which have not
>> now or have never been remedied by these scofflaws.
>>
>> The exercise of civil rights should be non-partisan but clearly it has
>> not been so as Democrats have been left off the hook as well as
>> Republicans during the Engler Administration.
>>
>> Now we've got a relatively new Republican Administration.
>>
>> What the heck has changed?
>>
>> Nothing at all.
>>
>> If folks wish to get money for their operations I again suggest they sue
>> the state big time and collect the llawyer's fees due any plaintiff's
>> counsel that prevails in such obvious and "slam dunk" ADA/504 cases.
>>
>> You've got evidence and other documentation here alone of a pattern and
>> practice of abuse.
>>
>> You've had more supplied over now close to a decade by yours trullly.
>>
>> Does a blind lay person have to hold the hand of the entire state
>> apparatus at every point and in time to get justice for himself and our
>> class while you all suck down federal bucks and live relatively high on
>> the hog compared to again the average blind person or others with
>> disabilities?
>>
>> Are we running a system of the rulle of law or that of the capricious and
>> discriminatory rulle of man here in this once great state of Michigan?
>>
>> Elmer Cerano you said words to the effect along with other staff of NMPAS
>> how could you do more to outreach to clients of MCB? Well we can't get
>> phone calls back from you or even on your own web site directory
>> information.
>>
>> Can't you all figure this out? We don't have access to the instruments of
>> government in all its venues at the first instance and that includes in
>> the adjudicative and even quasi-adjudicative process.
>>
>> Oh, yes and why did the belatedly brave Duncan Wyeth send this message to
>> me? Oh he was taking early retirement.
>>
>> And he told me over the phone he couldn't do a thing anymore from the
>> inside of state government because it was frankly and in a word
>> "non-responsive".
>>
>>
>> Aagain my word given the passage of time, or rather words, is: "This is
>> nothing but systemic, malicious, and pernicious mass discrimination."
>>
>> Access is and of itself is an established civil right. It is far past
>> time for enforcement.
>>
>> Joe Harcz
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Wyeth, Duncan (DELEG)
>> To: joe harcz Comcast
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 1:57 PM
>> Subject: FW: web access difficult for people with disabilities in
>> Michigan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Duncan O. Wyeth
>>
>> Executive Director
>>
>> Department of Energy, Labor and Economic Growth
>>
>> Michigan Commission on Disability Concerns
>>
>> Victor Center
>>
>> 201 N. Washington Square, Suite 150
>>
>> Lansing, Michigan 48913
>>
>> TEL: 517 335-0103
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> From: Elizabeth W. Bauer [mailto:ebauer7400 at aol.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 11:19 AM
>> To: ECERANO at mpas.org; Cannon, Patrick (DELEG); Collins, Vendella; Wyeth,
>> Duncan (DELEG)
>> Cc: MCODY at mpas.org
>> Subject: Re: web access difficult for people with disabilities in
>> Michigan
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you all. I find the entire state website difficult to navigate
>> myself. When I saw this report, I thought perhaps a win for PWD would
>> benefit us all. Most of the ADA accommodations do.
>>
>>
>>
>> Liz
>>
>> Elizabeth W. Bauer, Member
>> Michigan State Board of Education
>> 1355 Lake Park Drive
>> Birmingham, MI 48009-1089
>> 248 540 4656
>> www.michigan.gov/sbe
>>
>> "The secret of education is respecting the pupil."
>> Ralph Waldo Emerson
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ELMER CERANO <ECERANO at mpas.org>
>> To: Elizabeth Bauer <ebauer7400 at aol.com>; cannonp at michigan.gov;
>> collinsve at michigan.gov; wyethd2 at michigan.gov
>> Cc: MARK CODY <MCODY at mpas.org>
>> Sent: Wed, Sep 8, 2010 10:18 am
>> Subject: Re: web access difficult for people with disabilities in
>> Michigan
>>
>> we have been meeting with UCP/Michigan, Mich Disability Rights Network
>> and Jackie Doig re: DHS ADA compliance. Their I.T. access is also a
>> focus. Norm's group will look closer at the ADA compliance of the local
>> DHS offices's IT access. >>> "Elizabeth W. Bauer" <ebauer7400 at aol.com>
>> 9/6/2010 7:09 AM >>> Hi Pat, Duncan, Vendella, Elmer, Are any of the
>> advocacy groups raising this issue with state officials? It seems
>> something that would benefit from a coordinated call for justice. What
>> are the incoming officials thinking about it, planning to do? Liz From
>> AAPD (9.1.10)Report Finds Five State Benefits' Websites Inaccessible to
>> People with Disabilitiesby Jenifer Simpson, AAPD Senior Director of
>> Government Affairs A June 22, 2010 report finds that state public
>> benefits agencies are relying more on their websites as a means of
>> providing information to the public, and as a means for applicants to
>> secure Medicaid, food stamps, and cash assistance. However, the report,
>> by the National Center for Law and Economic Justice (NCLEJ) at
>> http://www.nclej.org/ , shows that at least five states * California,
>> Florida, Michigan, New York and Texas * have agency websites with
>> problems that make them inaccessible to people with disabilities who are
>> users of assistive technology, and many websites are difficult for anyone
>> to navigate. ... Elizabeth W. Bauer, Member Michigan State Board
>> of Education 1355 Lake Park Drive Birmingham, MI 48009-1089 248 540 4656
>> www.michigan.gov/sbe "The secret of education is respecting the pupil."
>> Ralph Waldo Emerson
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