[nfbmi-talk] A Little Birdi Told Me...

joe harcz Comcast joeharcz at comcast.net
Wed May 25 17:45:20 UTC 2011


Not me...Smile...I just think it is a lovely and descriptive word that talks 
about a common bond, common action and his bound by fraternity and 
ultimately love for each other.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Evelyn Weckerly" <weckerly at i2k.com>
To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] A Little Birdi Told Me...


> Okay, Joe. I thought you were implying more than that (smile).
>
> Evelyn
>
> At 01:38 PM 5/25/2011, you wrote:
>>I understand. All I was saying is another word for that strong bond, or 
>>brother (an) sisterhood, is indeed "solidarity".
>>
>>Peace,
>>
>>Joe
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Evelyn Weckerly" <weckerly at i2k.com>
>>To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 1:30 PM
>>Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] A Little Birdi Told Me...
>>
>>
>>>Hi, Joe,
>>>
>>>My intention was not at all political. I've attended a huge number of 
>>>convention and have seen wonderful things happen to people, most of it 
>>>not involving a  monetary transaction like the one I described; rather, I 
>>>wanted to illustrate the strong bond that being part of the NFB creates 
>>>among its member--and sometimes nonmember.
>>>
>>>Cordially,
>>>
>>>Evelyn
>>>
>>>At 01:24 PM 5/25/2011, you wrote:
>>>>Great story. It does go to an issue that often is ascribed to the left 
>>>>of the political spectrum, but in a word is called, "Solidarity."
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for the true stories.
>>>>
>>>>Peace with Justice,
>>>>
>>>>Joe
>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Evelyn Weckerly" <weckerly at i2k.com>
>>>>To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 1:07 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] A Little Birdi Told Me...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hi, All,
>>>>>
>>>>>I joined this list last week; this is my first post.
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm glad for Christine also, and Mary, you are absolutely right.
>>>>>
>>>>>Back in 1968 I became what was known in the Federation as th4e Weckerly 
>>>>>case. I (and another teacher shortly after me) had to fight for tenure. 
>>>>>The whole thing lasted five years before it finally ended in victory. 
>>>>>During that time, my family expected I would lose--no support there. 
>>>>>Year after year at convention Dr. Jernigan stated emphatically in his 
>>>>>presidential report that we would win. Only the NFB backed and 
>>>>>encouraged me! Of course, we did win it. Oftentimes, I am sure, no one 
>>>>>else understands when you are being discriminated against or treated 
>>>>>badly because of blindness. We do indeed walk alone and march together. 
>>>>>While we're on the subject of supporting one another, I'd like to 
>>>>>retell what happened in Chicago one year at convention--just in case 
>>>>>there are people on this list who were not there.
>>>>>
>>>>>A man wanted to work as an auto mechanic. While in Chicago, he got an 
>>>>>interview and then wasa hired. His new employer told him to report 
>>>>>Saturday morning (day after convention ended). There was one catch: he 
>>>>>had to bring his own tools which at that time would cost him $1200. 
>>>>>Rehab told him that getting those tools for him would take three 
>>>>>months. We solved that one in a hurry! The hat was passed for a 
>>>>>collection, and he got his tools as a no interest loan from us. You 
>>>>>should have hear the cheering! Now that's a dramatic example of 
>>>>>supporting one another.
>>>>>
>>>>>Cordially,
>>>>>
>>>>>Evelyn
>>>>>
>>>>>At 12:43 PM 5/25/2011, you wrote:
>>>>>>Dear Joe and Dave,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I compliment both of you on your messages, well said.  Dr. Jernigan 
>>>>>>was so
>>>>>>right to  teach us to fight only for issues which directly concern 
>>>>>>blind
>>>>>>Americans because of the diversity of political and other kinds of 
>>>>>>opinion
>>>>>>and beliefs held by NFB's members.
>>>>>>When I heard the news yesterday about our sister, Christine, I first 
>>>>>>cheered
>>>>>>and the cried.  Remember, Many of us marched out in the cold lat s  t 
>>>>>>Winter
>>>>>>for the unjust treatment of Dave and Christine, and also our blind 
>>>>>>venders
>>>>>>and agency clients who have, and are receiving horrific service by the
>>>>>>agency given our tax payer money to help us find jobs.
>>>>>>It is so sweet to have a victory, as I often feel despair settling in 
>>>>>>upon
>>>>>>me when change comes so slowly.  Yet we remain committed to our cause 
>>>>>>of
>>>>>>obtaining first class treatment for all blind people.  When one of us 
>>>>>>is
>>>>>>weighed down by these injustices, we have others by our side to lean 
>>>>>>on till
>>>>>>we can stand upright again.  That is why we choose to act as an 
>>>>>>organized
>>>>>>blind movement and not just as individuals.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>No, we differ on some views, but we love one another as a family when 
>>>>>>one
>>>>>>blind person is treated horrendously.
>>>>>>Go Christine, go Dave!  We stand with you as long as it takes!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Mary Wurtzel
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>>>>>>[mailto:nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>On Behalf Of joe harcz Comcast
>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 7:37 AM
>>>>>>To: NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List
>>>>>>Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] A Little Birdi Told Me...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Dear Ray,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I've refrained from commenting up until now because your message 
>>>>>>conflicts
>>>>>>me deeply. One reason it conflicts me is that while I personally agree 
>>>>>>with
>>>>>>many elements of your message it detracts from a great victory against
>>>>>>injustice. Ray, I am well left of center as you know and I think most 
>>>>>>on
>>>>>>this list know that too.  Part of being so self-labeled we are by 
>>>>>>nature for
>>>>>>
>>>>>>the organizational rights of workers including public sector 
>>>>>>employees. And
>>>>>>certainly we agree that at a minimum public sector employees need to 
>>>>>>have
>>>>>>the protections against arbitrary and capricious abuses of bosses
>>>>>>established not only through collective bargaining, but also civil 
>>>>>>service,
>>>>>>and other due process protections.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Here, Christine and Dave Robinson before her showed that Patrick D. 
>>>>>>Cannon
>>>>>>the so-called liberal Democrat knight in white armor, protector of 
>>>>>>civil
>>>>>>rights, and of public sector employees was directly the opposite. He 
>>>>>>is a
>>>>>>venal, abusive hypocrite. That is not just an allegation, but totally
>>>>>>documented in these two cases alone and there have been others not 
>>>>>>mentioned
>>>>>>
>>>>>>on this list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Cannon is a self-serving autocrat who doesn't give a fig about the 
>>>>>>civil
>>>>>>rights of people let alone those of blind employees or consumers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Christine was greatly wronged. but, more important than the personal 
>>>>>>abuse
>>>>>>and subsequent victory is that this shows a pattern and practice of
>>>>>>injustice under the reign of terror of Cannon against Michigan's blind
>>>>>>citizens over years. Thus, this vindication of Christine is also a
>>>>>>vindication of what advocates such as myself have been fighting about 
>>>>>>over
>>>>>>the years too. It is a victory for all of those consumers abused over 
>>>>>>years
>>>>>>too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>One might not be totally fulfilled by belated justice, but, my brother 
>>>>>>it
>>>>>>does taste sweet. I relish the flavor in my mouth today.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Again Ray I share your concerns about other issues and the 
>>>>>>anti-government
>>>>>>fever for lack of better words. But, corrupt government actors do us 
>>>>>>no
>>>>>>favors. I fight against the corruption in the system to save the 
>>>>>>system if
>>>>>>you catch my drift. If we don't do so the "radical right" for lack of 
>>>>>>better
>>>>>>
>>>>>>words will point to the abuses as an excuse for shutting down programs 
>>>>>>like
>>>>>>Vocational Rehabilitation programs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>This said, I too wish to say, "Congratulations Christine!" And I also 
>>>>>>wish
>>>>>>to say, "Congratulations to all those who seek justice in our 
>>>>>>lifetime."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Peace with Justice,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Joe
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>From: "Raymond Roberson" <rayrroberson at gmail.com>
>>>>>>To: "Marcus Simmons" <MarcusSimmons at comcast.net>; "NFB of Michigan 
>>>>>>Internet
>>>>>>Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 7:20 PM
>>>>>>Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] A Little Birdi Told Me...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > good for christine boone. however the national federation of
>>>>>>the blind > of
>>>>>> > michigan was stopped in its goal with the support of the national
>>>>>> > headquarters in proceding toward a lawsuit in the state of
>>>>>>michigan > when
>>>>>> > larry posont had to agree to not bring legal action against
>>>>>>the > michigan
>>>>>> > commission for the blind as a condition to governor rick
>>>>>>synder > appointing
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > larry to the commission board. the little birdie told me and so 
>>>>>> > larry
>>>>>> > posont stopped the federation in michigan in its legal pursuits.
>>>>>> > republicans have a national agenda and that is small governent
>>>>>>by > getting
>>>>>> > rid of social programs such as social security, medicare,
>>>>>>medicaid, > taxing
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > the middle class, giving tax breaks to corporations which does
>>>>>>not > create
>>>>>> > jobs in michigan or any where in the united states, and ship
>>>>>>jobs out > side
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > of the united states to other countries like china, india,
>>>>>> mexico, > ect.
>>>>>> > the nfb of michigan was sold out, including state programs such
>>>>>>as > school
>>>>>> > districts, violation of our state constitution by creating a
>>>>>> state > law
>>>>>> > with out public hearing, the emergency financial manager. working 
>>>>>> > on
>>>>>> > collective bargaining rights of labor union who have a history
>>>>>>of > creating
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > safe work conditions,and other benefits such as decent
>>>>>> wages, > creating
>>>>>> > child labor law so that children are not forced to work. now there 
>>>>>> > is
>>>>>> > started recall rick synder petitions in circulation in michigan
>>>>>>synder > is
>>>>>> > no friend of the middle class or the poor. ray roberson
>>>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> > From: "Marcus Simmons" <MarcusSimmons at comcast.net>
>>>>>> > To: <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 6:36 PM
>>>>>> > Subject: [nfbmi-talk] A Little Birdi Told Me...
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> Christine won her case. I am not surprise.
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